BUCHANAN DECLARES: DEATH OF THE WEST

Drudge Report ^ | 01/02/2002 | Matt Drudge

[WRhine]

One of those key ideas was openness to other cultures and civilizations. The West didn't take the NIH (not invented here) attitude some places took and thrived.

Most of the intermingling of peoples in Europe during that time was with other western civilizations. You are mixing apples and oranges on the false assumption that all cultures are created equal. We see none of this in the animal kingdom. Why would it not be the same for humans?

[Cyber Liberty]

"It's still undisputed, and highly relevant."

Hogwash, hogwaller.

Call me stupid, but I have always had the opinion, humble that it is, that it is incumbent upon the accuser to make a positive argument in support of his charges, rather than upon the accused to refute them. Maybe not stupid, but perhaps "ignorant," as I have already been called by your buddy, Nanook of the North up there.

As an aside, I would point out that I've seen a lot of people protest that this forum is all-Bush, all the time; that opinions contrary to Bush's are erased and/or dismissed. I say, "Let them come to this thread." I have never seen such a collection of professional malcontents in my life.

[Petronski]

I'm climbing out of your sewer now. Watch out for the darkies.

[FITZ]

Third world values are the desire for a two class society ---the wealthy and the very poor. That seems to be where we are headed by increasing illiteracy rates and having a servant class. The people who consider themselves elite prefer this system, they like cheap help to clean their toilets, watch their children, make their beds for them. We seem very eager to eliminate the middle class, wages are actually falling in many places for what was once middle class jobs. Jobs that in the 50's could support a family with one-wage earner, obtain a home paid off in 15 years and a comfortable middle class lifestyle are now poverty jobs that provide no health insurance benefits, minimum wages and tiny raises if any, and a family that has to have food stamps and Medicaid.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I have never seen such a collection of professional malcontents in my life.

Professional malcontent# 1773958934 checking in.

[a_federalist]

"Professional malcontent# 1773958934 checking in."

You don't need to post that. We scanned in your ID implant when you turned on your monitor.

[Tauzero]

"I am not going to debate with you a correlation between cultural or economic advance and skin color. It's obscene."

Forrest wins by default I guess.

[Joe Hadenuf]

he he he....

[Cyber Liberty]

^5's. I'm malcontent #4481. It took a good 3-4 bannings by Jim for me to mellow out.

[WRhine]

We seem very eager to eliminate the middle class, wages are actually falling in many places for what was once middle class jobs.

Thanks FITZ for bringing up this very important point. The day that middle class America dies and their dreams of upward mobility with it, we are finished as a global super power. Who is going to do the bulk of the heavy lifting that makes America great? America will go from the best country on the planet to the best 3rd world country on the planet.

[garbanzo]

Jobs that in the 50's could support a family with one-wage earner

The solution for this is simple. Build a time machine and go back to 1950.

Economies evolve. Way earlier in the thread I mentioned that if we double the wages of fruit pickers we double the wages of software developers. Note that in 1950 there were no software developers - or at least very few - so you could have higher wages in lower skilled jobs because the economy supported it. It no longer supports that because the demands of the labor market have changed. Cheap computers means a broader market for software and a demand for more software developers relative to fruit-pickers.

We simply can't compare the 50s to today without adjusting for other factors - e.g. women in the workplace, Jim Crow, etc.

[UberVernunft]

What happened with the socratic method of argument and discussion etc?

I think they would consider Socrates and Plato to be "white", and thus verboten. Of course, to the rest of us they are representatives of a superior culture.

[UberVernunft]

Watch out for the darkies.

Hey dude, that was uncalled for. I just hit the abuse button.

[garbanzo]

Look up the etymology of the word "algebra" and the word "zero" along with words like "azimuth" - vitally important concepts in the development of Western science and mathematics. Also take a look at your keyboard and note the lack of Roman numerals on the top row.

[garbanzo]

On the two-tier society - that's exactly what they're fleeing, huddled masses yearning to breathe free and all.

[RKM]

COME ON 1000 POSTS!

ONE CAN TELL THE POWER BEHIND AN IDEA BY THE NUMBER OF THOSE TRYING TO SHOOT THE MESSANGER.

RKM