Addicted to the Drug War

Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | December 28, 2001 | Ilana Mercer

[William Terrell]

Admit it: a drug dealer dropped you when you were a baby.

[dcwusmc]

Probably dropped Roscoe and the rest of the gang, too!

[Roscoe]

Exactly. Your point?

"...because the federal powers which were the sole object of the Amendments were already understood."

[Roscoe]

The reason the analogy is flawed is due to its false assumption that libertarianism would preclude eliminating the threat presented by the pointer of the gun.

Libertarianism precludes eliminating the threat presented to public safety by drug dealers.

[£inuxgruven]

Libertarianism precludes eliminating the threat presented to public safety by drug dealers.

RepubliRats eliminate the threat of freedom from those desiring a nanny state

PS: Do you consider Adolf Coors a drug dealer, and why shouldn't he be held responsible for every single death brought about because someone was sippin a Coors whilst colliding with a minivan full of soccermoms?

[Roscoe]

Crack is beer? Well, at least that isn't quite as absurd as the Libertarian mantra that smoking crack is the same as the RTKBA.

[£inuxgruven]

Roscoe, Roscoe, Roscoe, yet another stretch of your "imagination". If you reread my post I don't think you'll find anything about crack=beer. But it's easier to talk aboout something I didn't say than something I did isn't it. Your act isn't just wearing thin, it's worn out dude. Maybe you could adopt another screen name and pretend your "arguments" are new. Like that jackboot imbecile. Good luck!

[Hemingway's Ghost]

"...because the federal powers which were the sole object of the Amendments were already understood."

Tell you what: if you're interested in carrying on this debate with me, why don't you just state your opposition to my post in plain English. You're being quite obtuse.

[THEUPMAN]

Absurd premises are the foundation of Libertarianism

excelent argument, you have swayed me with you silver tounge and rapier wit. My mind is clear now ,I can see the erroe of my ways .
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Thank you Roscoe. If not for you I would still be thinking kdej rbtyiuhnb and who knows where that could lead.If only more people like you would htkykt then perhaps nrjto would lpsjruti and we could all live
happily ever after.

[MadameAxe]

Libertarianism precludes eliminating the threat presented to public safety by drug dealers.

The first fallacy in this argument is that in a decriminalized environment "drug dealers" would be a threat to public safety. Or are you actually claiming that liquor stores and pharmacies are a "threat to public safety"?

The drug dealers we get via the current Prohibition certainly are, though. Way to go, keeping them in business.

The second fallacy is that libertarianism doesn't allow threats to be dealt with.

[tpaine]

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Absurd premises are the foundation of Libertarianism.

-- Wrong. - Every 'premise' you make about libertarianism, - is absurd.

For example: The right to deal crack equals the RTKBA. - 1916 roscoe -

--- No libertarian here has made that premise. - We all realise that states have the power to 'regulate' the public 'dealing' of goods, using constitutional due process.

But we have an unalienable right to grow cocaine for personal use, & smoke it, if we harm no one else in the doing.

Can you make a logical argument against that premise? - I bet not. - #1920

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I bet right. -- Roscoe is a phony, unable to defend his silly claims.

[Roscoe]

Or are you actually claiming that liquor stores and pharmacies are a "threat to public safety"?

Crack equals beer? Smack equals aspirin?

Libertarianism's foundation.

[AUgrad]

Crack equals beer? Smack equals aspirin?

Libertarianism's foundation

Not a very deep thinker are you? Libertarianisms foundation is you leave me alone, I leave you alone. Your attempts to obfuscate the issue only serve to discredit your arguments.

[Roscoe]

Libertarianisms foundation is you leave me alone, I leave you alone.

Really? Libertarians on FR continually attack our laws and systems of government, but they don't want any criticism leveled at their facile philosophy.

[tacticalogic]

Really? Libertarians on FR continually attack our laws and systems of government, but they don't want any criticism leveled at their facile philosophy.

You keep preaching about living in a community that shares your values. Why did you join a forum that includes libertarians?

[Roscoe]

You keep preaching about living in a community that shares your values.

Quote, please.

[Virginia-American]

"By way of analogy, I know superb marksmen who could safely fire rifles down crowded urban streets. They could take out a rat standing between your feet and never touch you. I wouldn't be in favor of ordinances that would allow them to do so." --Kevin Curry

You people (hey you've passed the Turing test!) sound more like Sarah Brady every day. The analogy here appears to be 'someone may discharge a gun dangerously, therefore we should outlaw guns.' No one is questioning that a town council could prohibit discharging guns (unless you're actually trying to stop a crime), but they lack the authority to outlaw the gun. Similarly, they can outlaw public intoxication, but they can't ban booze or other drugs. Is there soimething else we are supposed to learn from this?

Libertarians on FR continually attack our laws and systems of government,

Calls for the repeal of certain laws, and for the prosecution of GS-grade criminals hardly constitute an attack on our system of government. Maybe I was being too generous above: you actually sound more like B*ll Cl*nt*n here (Remember? the OKC bombing was because of gov't-haters like talk radio hosts)

As I see it, the Woddies are fanatical supporters of an FDR policy that was condemned as unconstitututional at the time by the GOP. To paraphrase Reagan, "I didn't leave the GOP, it left me"

[tacticalogic]

I can't seem to find a quote, so it seems I was mistaken. I thought I had remembered you posting something resembling a complete thought. My bad.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Libertarianism precludes eliminating the threat presented to public safety by drug dealers.

Please explain this "threat" posed to public safety by drug dealers (acting in their capacity as drug dealers).

[Roscoe]

Similarly, they can outlaw public intoxication, but they can't ban booze or other drugs.

They can.