Addicted to the Drug War

Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | December 28, 2001 | Ilana Mercer

[VA Advogado]

I think it would be fair to use the Social Security administration's own published interested rate figure they use for disputed payments. Otherwise, the federal courts have their own rate they use for judgments. Finally, there is the refund interest rate for the IRS.

[Virginia-American]

Shoot a cop, get the needle.

That's not what happened to the Davidians. They were acquited on all capital charges. So (assuming for the sake of argument that they actually shot any 'cops'), you're flat-out wrong. There are grounds for shooting 'em. I support the death penalty for killer cops as well as for cop killers.

But you have brought up a serious problem: how do we keep the Feds in line? think Horiuchi, who was properly charged in a state court with murder (IIRC), and was given the all-clear by a Fed court.

[Roscoe]

Documentation involves more than shrill assertion.

[dcwusmc]

And the LP's presidential campaigns benefited who?

Didn't benefit the pubbies; wasn't supposed to. Didn't especially benefit Billy Jeff, either. And, ain't the LP a bunch of 1%ers that don't mean squat? If so, how could they benefit ANYBODY?

But don't ask me, anyway, I am not a party member.

[Roscoe]

[Shoot a cop, get the needle.]

That's not what happened to the Davidians.

Are you saying that they were guilty?

[Roscoe]

Didn't especially benefit Billy Jeff, either.

How nice.

[Zon]

Check your FreeRepublic email.

[dcwusmc]

I have NO problem with the Congress being crippled if it tries to go one INCH over the prescribed boundaries of the Constitution. Sad fact is, Congress AND the Executive have gone so far past their bounds they look back and can't see them. Remember, "stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kinda cool."??? And you railed against WJC, x42, why aren't you up in arms about GWB, p43???????

The government MUST stay within its bounds. The Constitution is NOT a "living document," but a ROADBLOCK to big government.

[tpaine]

I am too proud to stop making a fool of myself so lets continue. -- Regarding your SS, you need to send back every dollar you make beyond what you paid in, plus interest.
Anything after that is hypocracy money.

A proud fool? Indeed you are. -- And, - I'll let you know, in 12/15 years, if I'm still kicking, about canceling my payments. Maybe instead, - we can make arrangements for your welfare family to get them at that point. I'll check with my lawyer to see if this can be set up.

[eno_]

THIS would be a very interesting result: Roscoe Pondexter? I am prepared to be disappointed, but if it is true, Roscoe is a very very interesting guy.

[tpaine]

I am too proud to stop making a fool of myself so lets continue. -- Regarding your SS, you need to send back every dollar you make beyond what you paid in, plus interest.
Anything after that is hypocracy money

A proud fool? Indeed you are. -- And, - I'll let you know, in 12/15 years, if I'm still kicking, about canceling my payments. Maybe instead, - we can make arrangements for your welfare family to get them at that point. I'll check with my lawyer to see if this can be set up.

[Roscoe]

How do you measure "one inch" without a "bright line" point of beginning?

[Virginia-American]

It would be nice if the politicians met only a month a year

In VA, the General Assembly meets, IIRC, 45 days one year, then 60 the next, then 45 again, and son forth. Used to be 30.

[Abundy]

Which the Marxist promise to "wither away" the state has inevitably lead to.

?

Do you listen to yourself you idiot? What the f#ck do you think the Marxists did with the vacuum they created when they "withered away the State?" The replaced it with another State you douchebag. It was a Marxist State, but a State none the less.

Your pet drug war does nothing more than solidify the "State"...assh*le.

CJ: Yes, I agree with your quotes in principle. Only in Principle. However, the beautiful vision of those men has been somewhat corrupted...BTW, my entry on to this thread was a specific response to the moronity that passes for thought from Roscoe...how about we address my point. If not, then you might want to get my full opinion on the WOD, not just my concerns wrt the erosion of our rights.

[Roscoe]

Then mighty Roscoe's cult arose
    (as every SPACEWARP reader knows)
Interpreted by deacons three:
    Rick Sneary, Edmund Cox and me.
The moral of this history, fan
    Is: cults ain't founded by one slan;
Attempts by two make fandom nod,
    For only t'ree can make a ghod.

[Roscoe]

The replaced it with another State

How about that?

[dcwusmc]

Good question. Maybe the same basis they had for outlawing pot and other drugs, i.e: NOTHING Constitutional. If you have to ask that question, you KNOW they are 1000% wrong but you don't seem to care much, do you?

[tpaine]

I had made arrangements to be initiated at the Malloys meeting in Daly City last year. The Irish Flu struck, and I was unable to attend.

Is it being held there again this year?

[Roscoe]

Our Constitution doesn't require that laws be wise. Confusing policy questions with Constitutional questions is pretty common.

[Virginia-American]

NO, I think they were falsely accused. (Since the Feds didn't do autopsies on the ATFers, probably because they thought it was friendly fire, I'd say they knew they were falsely accusing them).

But the larger problem remains: What punishment was meted out to the ATFer who left the warrant in the office? NONE To the guy who lied on the warrant about the former meth lab? NONE. To the entire crew of ATF who shot into a house that they knew contained women and children? NONE. and so on and so on.