Addicted to the Drug War

Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | December 28, 2001 | Ilana Mercer

[Roscoe]

The so called Whiskey Rebellion is kind of like the first Waco.

Congratulations, Jhoffa_! You've exposed the fact that they hate our Constitution and American system of government from its very beginnings.

[dcwusmc]

The reason some folks "despise" (your term) the likes of KC, CJ, Roscoe, et al, is simply because not a one of them will renounce the INITIATION of force against someone because the other person MIGHT be doing something in private that THEY don't like. And they do not hesitate to violate, or have others violate on their behalf, the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I could only imagine in my worst nightmare what a country composed of their ilk would be like. At that point, there'd be no Constitution left. And yet they (and you) bitch about what Billy Jeff did to the country.

[donh]

They smashed stills and confiscated and destroyed contraband whiskey, historical revisionism notwithstanding

Same sort of the the IRS does with income tax evaders. Does that mean the IRS can regulate if or where you can work?

[Jhoffa_]

Your position was based on a fundamental mistake on your part.

Hardly..

Tell me why it's wrong for the government to break up YOUR still please..

(hint, it's all about property right's)

[AKbear]

Not at all. But you can't pick and choose which amendments you want to adhere to. Either use it all, or forget it and carry on with the programs that are in place today.

[OWK]

You'll have to be a little more specific.

What exactly are you asking?

[Texasforever]

Agreed, but any government program, federal, state, county, or local, must take into consideration the whole constitution including the entire Bill of Rights. Most especially the Bill of Rights.

Not prior to the 14th amendment. This country was founded on the principle of state sovereignty. The 14th amendment has led the way to the massive federal government that we have today.

[Roscoe]

We finally made it baby..

Your application for membership in the Illuminati will be mailed to you in the morning. We'll have you fitted for a crown at our first opportunity. :)

[tpaine]

A proud fink?

Congrats.

[Jhoffa_]

If you'd be willing to repeat your example, I'd be willing to answer it to the best of my ability.

Okay..

Look, OWK we both know that there is really very little seperating Conservatives from Libertarians.. (certainly less than stands between Democrats and Libertarians.. can we agree on that?)

we differ on social issues, such as:

In a purely Libertarian society what is to prevent atrocities like public beastality? Or drug dealing?

(Provided the individual in question owns both the land and the drugs or the animal)

Basically, that was the question..

[Roscoe]

Obey the posting rules, you won't have a problem.

[strela]

See, I told you all the effort would pay off in the long run

I'd like to thank the Academy ...

[OWK]

The 14th amendment has led the way to the massive federal government that we have today.

And the seventeeth made it impossible to reassert the power of the states.

[AKbear]

Congratulations, Jhoffa_! You've exposed the fact that they hate our Constitution and American system of government from its very beginnings.

What? Washington killed people and destroyed their property for the money they refused to fork over to the government. And you tell me that he was acting wholly within the Constitution?

Waco, originally, was due to suspected automatic weapons the Dividians were to allegedly have in their possession. That means that they alegedly owed money to the government. They were killed and their property was destroyed because of it.

Did you agree that the Dividians needed to be killed and their property destroyed because of the money they allegedly owed to the government?

[Jhoffa_]

I did not "NARC" anyone out..

I never complained.. Any post that was pulled happened to be pulled without any input from me what-so-ever..

Now, step away from the tinfoil you baby..

[tpaine]

I posted it. -- You answered it, dimbulb . - then it disappeared. -- Strela has semi-admitted to finkhood.

Try to keep up.

[Roscoe]

Washington killed people and destroyed their property for the money they refused to fork over to the government.

The hate start showing its face. Thanks, AKbear.

[Demidog]

Not prior to the 14th amendment.

Simply not true. The Supreme Court of Georgia in fact ruled that the second amendment applied to them well before the 14th was ratified. The 14th amendment remedied a particularly racist ruling by Justice Teney and his band of revisionists.

[Jhoffa_]

I posted it. -- You answered it, dimbulb . - then it disappeared. -- Strela has semi-admitted to finkhood.

And you wonder why your posts keep vanishing?

Look at OWK and Don H..

You don't see their posts evaporating do ya?

(It just may be something about you and your retorical style TPaine..)

[Texasforever]

And the seventeeth made it impossible to reassert the power of the states.

I have seen that debate several times on the forum but I haven't studied it enough to have formed an opinion. I still wonder why it is wrong to elect senators instead of them being appointed.