Posted on 12/24/2001 4:49:53 PM PST by dlt
So are the fundamentalist Baptists...I should know, as I was raised in a family of them.
Attendance at Anglican Churches in England have been in decline for decades. Maybe they should be devoting more time ministering to Anglicans in England and less to Jews in Israel.
Were you brainwashed? Forced to marry at 13? Made to turn over all you possesions to your minister? What kind of cult are the fundamentalist Baptists?
A very good summary of the situation, Christians have a duty to tell the 'Good News' (Godspell, Gospel, Evangelize), which is English, Old English, and Anglicized Greek, for it, among others. No other person has a duty to be convinced, except in the most abstract sense of that term.
People have a right to be annoyed by missionaries, as most Christians are when Mormon or 7th Day Adventist missionaries arrive at the door. The Arab approach, which is to kill the missionaries, and anyone who converts, is unlikely to be adopted in Israel anytime soon, I believe (LOL)
'cult n 1: adherents of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices '--Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
Aren't we all members of a cult, by this definition.
LOL. No, I wasn't forced to marry at 13. But...like the Taliban...we were prohibited from seeing movies, no dancing, no playing cards, no listening to pop music, no skirts which were not at least 3 inches below the knees, no wearing pants (I'm female), prayers at least 3 times at day (mealtimes), etc. In general, the same rules and regulations which you will find at Bob Jones University.
I'm not saying this was horrible way to live, and I was actually joking about it being a cult, but it is not the way I choose to live today. Even my father now sees that these lifestyle rules have little to do with faith.
And maybe you could straighten me out on another little misconception ... kids in Christian schools, Sunday Schools and Bible Schools all study from the bible, which contains (part of) the Jewish part ... the Torah. But it seems that kids in Jewish school aren't even allowed to lay eyes on the Christian part. Oh, I forgot, the Christian part is heresy which deserves to be burned (but only in secret, of course).
Its passing strange to me that Christians can't get their minds all the way around the fact that Islam at least acknowledges Jesus as a key biblical figure, whereas Judeaism denies him altogether ...
Well, seeing how Christianity came out of Judaism, it would be kind of hard to teach Christianity without the Torah.
Its passing strange to me that Christians can't get their minds all the way around the fact that Islam at least acknowledges Jesus as a key biblical figure, whereas Judeaism denies him altogether ...
Let's start bashing Buddhists and Hindus too, for not acknowledging Jesus either.
And this is some sort of surprise to you? Islam is a heresy of both Judaism and Christianity, so it has to acknowledge the truth of it's sources. Judaism regards Christianity as a heresy of Judaism, when they acknowledge that much of a connection. They would no more honor Jesus than Christians honor Mohammed, nor should they, considering their beliefs.
Yes. But I'm not setting it up, they are. There are, of course, some Christian groups which do not evangelize or some which stress it more than others but missionary work is an essential part of the Christian faith. Those, such as the teacher in this article, who try to separate Christians from Christian missionary work are telling Christians not to practice a basic part of their faith.
We all know what the real case is: This teacher doesn't want Christians doing what Christians do. Fine and good. But at least she could be honest about it.
No that would not be a mistake, that would be an ACCIDENT. I do not think that this is a difficult concept for one to pick up. A mistake is when you do something deliberately, than decide that it was the wrong thing to do. As in this situation.
Why do I care? If you want to try to teach Christianity without the Torah, go ahead. I don't care about that either. Leave me to my Judaism, and you can believe whatever you want to believe.
Judaism stands on its own. Christianity can not stand but for Judaism. Islam plagiarizes both.
Judaism regards Jesus as a heresy regardless of Mohammad, Islam or Arabs. They weren't burning the Qa'ran.
Judaism regards Jesus as a heresy regardless of Mohammad, Islam or Arabs. They weren't burning the Qa'ran.
Actually they regard Jesus as a heretic, which as they see the nature of God, he was.
This is not the time or place for a discussion of this but I believe that Christianity is a branch of Judaism, historically speaking. Obviously this can only be the case if you take the position that Paul took with James (the brother of Jesus), that certain requirements of Judaism as it existed up till then were inessential.
As we all know, Judaism had a wide range of opinions during the first century. The positions of those who exalted the Sacrifice at the Temple as the heart of Judaism clearly does not have much of a following now. Modern Judaism is descended from Rabbinical Judaism, which started to flourish shortly before the period. Those who were Pharisees clearly divided, with many continuing as Jews, others becoming Christian.
Of course by the beginning of the 2nd century Gentiles started to dominate the Christian church, and Christians ceased attending services at the more tolerant Jewish congregations. As we know, the Romans, who in their own way were non-partisan in this dispute, considered Christianity to be a form of Judaism for more than a century.
I realize that this is off topic, and probably pleases nobody here, but it might be worth a discussion sometime, somewhere. Obviously the major division between Jews and Christians is the question of the nature of the Messiah, and, more directly, is his coming a future, or a past event.
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