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Movie Review—The Lord of the Rings
CatholicExchange.com ^ | 12/19/01 | Steven D. Greydanus

Posted on 12/19/2001 5:52:04 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: proud2bRC;Darth Reagan; Eowyn-of-Rohan; balrog666; SauronOfMordor; Tom Bombadil;Sabertooth;Silly...
Hope you got to see it. Hubby took care of the kid so I could go.

Review ping.

21 posted on 12/19/2001 7:13:24 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Snuffington
Now, I have to admit the first hottie babe had that drug-induced cross-eyed come hither look in her eyes, but the second queen was a plot-damager. Bigtime miscast.
22 posted on 12/19/2001 7:16:06 PM PST by holman
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To: proud2bRC
The movie was great and pretty much how you would visualize the book (Hobbiton, Isengard, Rivendell, Moria, Lothlorien, etc.) The only thing that I felt was missing was Aragorn's rhyme ("All that is gold does not glitter, he who wanders is not lost")at Bree. Also, I would have liked the ending to have stayed a little closer to the book's (the contrast of Aragorn's mourning of Boromir and of the failure of the fellowship with Frodo's and Sam's successful escape.) Great movie, nonetheless!!
23 posted on 12/19/2001 7:17:58 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Snuffington
I'm curious why you ever thought it was a good idea to take your young children to this movie in the first place? I'd been watching reviews for the past couple of weeks, and it was made very clear that this was not at all a movie for children. PG-13 was pushing it.

Several reasons...

We do not have a TV (going on 5 years now) so I have not seen any reviews. I knew it was pg13, but I was not aware how brutally evil the orcs/trolls/Nazgul would be presented.

I just finished reading Fellowship of the Ring to my oldest. I simply couldn't tell him no. I just learned it was pg 13(not pg) last week. By that time I had been telling him we would go on opening day for several weeks. Originally I was going to go alone first to decide if it was appropriate. I should have stuck to my guns.

Wishful thinking?

It was definitely a mistake to take the younger two. Poor judgement, imprudent, and again, wishful thinking on my part.

24 posted on 12/19/2001 7:19:02 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: holman
Trolling LOTR posts makes you look far worse than it makes the film look.
25 posted on 12/19/2001 7:21:19 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: proud2bRC
We do not have a TV (going on 5 years now) so I have not seen any reviews.

Ack! You should have studied Free Republic on the topic. Literally dozens of reviews have been posted here. This is of course offered on the theory that 20/20 hindsight is better than no sight at all.

BTW... I would have taken a 9 year old under the same circumstance. For good or ill.

26 posted on 12/19/2001 7:24:11 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: Chi-townChief
My only complaint was that, while the movie succeeded in portraying the darkness of Moria/Isengard/Mordor quite well, it failed to portray the light and to a lesser degree the beauty of both Rivendell and Lothlorien, but especially Lothlorien. Lothlorien was given too short a treatment. The awe the characters experienced there was not translated well.

Of course, this is nit picking...

It is a superb film nonetheless.

27 posted on 12/19/2001 7:24:24 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Snuffington
Literally dozens of reviews have been posted here

Were there pre-release reviews posted here? By writers who saw it before last night? I missed them, unfortunately. I've read discussions of Tolkien (and Tolkien vs Rawlings ad nauseum) but nothing specific treating of the actual violence of the film version.

If I had it to do over again, I would take my 9 yr old again. He just closed his eyes if the scene was too brutal. We were looking forward to it too much to not take him.

Of course, now he wants to increase our nightly reading time so he knows the rest of the Trilogy's story line.

28 posted on 12/19/2001 7:30:46 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
And they didn't show how Gimli came to love Galadriel. And they didn't recite "All that glitters is not gold." And they didn't spend enough time at the council of Elrond. And they didn't show Galadriel giving Sam his box. See a pattern here? All my complaints are that there wasn't more, more! I guess this explains why I reread the books every few years--so I can have more, more. I will also see the movie again over Christmas--so I can see more, more.

What a painful, beloved quest Jackson undertook.

29 posted on 12/19/2001 7:36:58 PM PST by Samwise
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To: proud2bRC
Of course, now he wants to increase our nightly reading time so he knows the rest of the Trilogy's story line.

We're taking our 9-year-old next week. These kids have to handle things I never had to handle. They watched the Towers and the Pentagon get hit. They have anthrax scares at school. They have Columbine-preparedness drills. I hope the moral truths in the story help her cope. Maybe she can draw some parallels that will help her deal with reality--at least on a subconcious level.

30 posted on 12/19/2001 7:43:42 PM PST by Samwise
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To: holman

"Starship Trooper was a lot better."

Starship Troopers was the movie that even Denise Richards' boobs couldn't save. So, ipso facto, Starship could be better than no other movie in the known universe . . . and it's a shameful waste of female curvage.

31 posted on 12/19/2001 7:48:19 PM PST by Harp
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To: proud2bRC
The greatest line, and I'm sorry I can't quote it exactly, is Gandalf telling Frodo that, in essence, you can't choose your time, it chooses you and you have to make the best of it. I'm sorry if I butchered that but it makes an interesting parallel to our own times and people. If someone has the exact quote, please post it.
32 posted on 12/19/2001 7:49:31 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: proud2bRC
I agree with everything you said. Perfectly fabulous movie FOR GROWN-UPS and MATURE kids. The bad guys are monsters and way, way too scary for little kids or very sensitive older kids. I agree -- don't take a kid under 10! I think it would be ok to let them watch the video on a normal sized TV, but those horrible orcs, trolls, balrogs and particularly the nazguls on the big screen are enough to guarantee lots of nightmares. Video games with monsters in them are one thing, but the treatment in LOTR is very realistic.

Otherwise, this is truly a movie to see multiple times. Probably will go back tomorrow. I have no idea how much was spent on this film, but I guarantee -- every dollar was well-spent. New Zealand's tourism bureau should be hugging itself. The exteriors are perfectly glorious!!!

I give this film an A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++! After all the dreck Hollywood has been putting out for years, finally a real MOVIE in the grand tradition that is true to the source material.

33 posted on 12/19/2001 7:58:13 PM PST by tank_sherman
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34 posted on 12/19/2001 8:03:01 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: Samwise
These kids have to handle things I never had to handle. They watched the Towers and the Pentagon get hit. They have anthrax scares at school. They have Columbine-preparedness drills

We got rid of TV 5 years ago. My children only saw the TV coverage later at their grandparents homes, and it was minimal exposure, at most.

We home school. The only guns in our home school are the ones I own. There will never be a Columbine here.

The only ones here that would know if a threatening letter arrives would be my wife and I. The children would never know, and anthrax is not on their radar screens.

Kids can still be kids. They deserve it. Our kids don't have to handle anything we as parents decide they don't need to handle. I know, that's easy for me to say. But we make incredible sacrifices to home school, and we ignore a lot of harsh criticism for not having a TV.

How many parents have ever taken the time to read their child a several hundred page novel? I never would have or could have read The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Rings to my son if I had to compete with TV.

35 posted on 12/19/2001 8:09:35 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Please don't take my post #35 as criticizing you, samwise. It is a criticism of the entire culture/society, and my own frustration as seeing the incredible blessing of homeschooling and wishing all children shared in it (dittos for getting rid of TV)
36 posted on 12/19/2001 8:12:31 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Samwise
Oops, misdirected that comment before...

Please don't take my post #35 as criticizing you, samwise. It is a criticism of the entire culture/society, and my own frustration at seeing the incredible blessing of homeschooling and wishing all children shared in it (dittos for getting rid of TV).

God intended children to be innocent. The pop culture robs their innocence prematurely, to their immense detriment.

There is an incredible fundamental truth to the cliche, "You're only young once."

37 posted on 12/19/2001 8:17:05 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: PJ-Comix
Are you NUTS!!!??? "Starship Troopers" was a HORRIBLE movie. Not only that, it completely MISSED the spirit and theme of the Robert Heinlein novel.
I would go so far as to say that it was a parody of Heinlein. Too bad. I would like to see the following Heinlein books done with the same care as LoTR: The Cat Who Walks Through Walls and/or The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress and/or Glory Road. And a bunch of other stuff also, now that the bar is raised. I hope LoTR is a big success and proves there is a market for quality SF and fantasy films.
38 posted on 12/19/2001 8:18:20 PM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: Chi-townChief
You are absolutely correct! Dang it...I can paraphrase, but I can't quote. I would hate to screw it up.
39 posted on 12/19/2001 8:22:09 PM PST by Samwise
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To: nutmeg
Bump to read later
40 posted on 12/19/2001 8:29:00 PM PST by nutmeg
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