Christmas Symbols Don't Make The Grade In US Schools.

EWTN ^ | 12/16/01

[Polybius]

Two ninth-graders in Plymouth, Massachusetts, were told they could not create Christmas cards that say "Merry Christmas" or depict a nativity scene.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof";

I think that quite a few lawsuits are in order.

[jmp702]

Good post, but you're much too kind in using the label Athiest to describe those who want all reference to Christianity out of society. They are, plain and simple, bigots and haters.

To be honest, I'm not particularly religious in the organized sense. But those whose agenda is to demonize the religion and the religious freedom our country was founded on must be stopped. If it can't be accomplished through the courts and adherence to the constitution, the haters will reap what they sow.

[Snoopers-868th]

I am not athiest and I do not have a problem with silent prayer in school. Thanksgiving is Americana the same as Christmas used to be. What changed it??

I do however have a problem with ANY religion having a major influence over the students and feel the same for sex ed being taught in the school system -- parents should be the influence over these moral issues.

The ACLU has done "some" good and it seems alot bad. It seems to me that nowadays the issues are either black or white and there is no middle. It does seem to me that schools are free to celebrate other "nations" traditions while our nation shrinks in the background. Wasn't it our nation that lost its citizens through various wars -- was this what their sacrifice was all about??? GWB was reading to the Muslim children today!! Why is our president reading to specifically Muslim children? Or is this "politically correct" stuff because we are to believe the poor abused Muslims in the United States do not believe in elimination of the infidels. sarcasim intended. It sickens me and I like GWB.

[clay92]

Fighting back through the courts is the wrong answer. It is over-litigation, the search for a judicial solution to every private wrong, that has brought us to the point where school officials are afraid to have students utter a word about Christmas for fear of a lawsuit. All it takes is informed citizens. Some of the actions mentioned in this article were patently unconstitutional; some were borderline. Parents or other members of the community need to approach the school administrators and state the Constitutional case for why the acts are unconstitutional with proper documentation. Then the administrators would be able to grab some sack and uphold the Constitution. It's the American way.

-Clay

[Polybius]

Fighting back through the courts is the wrong answer. It is over-litigation, the search for a judicial solution to every private wrong, that has brought us to the point where school officials are afraid to have students utter a word about Christmas for fear of a lawsuit. All it takes is informed citizens. Some of the actions mentioned in this article were patently unconstitutional;

But the reason that public school administrators are engaging in such foolishness is that it has become Liberal "Conventional Wisdom" that such actions are madated by a non-existant Constitutional right to Freedom from Religion.

Only by establishing case law rulings, all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary, can we get back to the original intent of the First Amendment.

[jmp702]

that has brought us to the point where school officials are afraid to have students utter a word about Christmas for fear of a lawsuit.

Correct. That is what I stated in #7- School officials have been bludgeoned into submission by this subversive group, who with the complicity of their crony judges, have rewritten the constitution

I'm cynical enought to believe that parental pressure or pressure from the community would not be enough considering the legal precedents from these myriad aclu suits. School officials hands are tied until new cases set new precedents. Therefore, I think the first step is to use the courts. If that isn't effective, then the citizens have the right to achieve justice otherwise.

It is over-litigation, the search for a judicial solution to every private wrong

Absolute correct. But this is not a private wrong. Should a gov't school employee not follow the dictates of his superiors, what do think would be the result? Again, until there is some court decided legal precedent to open a small hole, no gain will be made, much less a score. imo.

[jmp702]

Christmas symbols make the grade at the wtc site. Merry Christmas

[who knows what evil?]

D*mn shame when an American citizen has to suffer vandalism at the hand(s) of some knuckle-dragging hooligan just for exercising their First Amendment right to speak freely.