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[Roscoe]

Claiming not play the race card, then doing so in the very same sentence, is a textbook example of Doublethink.

[Zviadist]

I do not consider the men and women of our armed forces to be cowards. They are probably the most brave people on earth because they are in the service of cowards.

Well said!

[A Navy Vet]

"It's an extreme form of racism..."

Ya know dog, I've always thought you to be an intelligent guy, if somewhat unrealistic. But to drop this "racism" issue into a matter of military strategy and alliances causes me to finally agree with your main detractors - you ARE smoking way too much hemp, IMHO.

[sinkspur]

Cowards should never run the military.

I thought you were some kind of Constitutionalist?

Civilians run the military, hoot-man. I guess only Ron Paul could run the military, in your foggy thought-processes.

Only thing is, the American people don't want Ron Paul anywhere NEAR command of the military.

[Cold Heat]

I get it now. Your pissed because the small skirmishes we have fought in the last few years were tooooooo EASY!

You would have preferred to watch TV every day for the body counts on each side to sort of equalize like 150 enemy and 96 friendlies. Then 200 friendlies to a meager 50 enemy dead. This process would then satisfy your need to view a fair fight.

I'll bet you always root for the underdog in sports matches. I pity you. You will never understand that somebody has to be #1. You are the fortunate one who is blessed to be a U.S. citizen and cannot see the sacrifice that it took to get where we are today. Too bad. Those soldiers over there will fight and die for your rights anyway. You have the right to be like you are.

[Demidog]

Calling racism for what it is, is appropriate. You do not refrain from calling KKK members racists when it is obvious they are racists.

The "race card" refers to the inappropriate labeling of an action to be racist which clearly is not or using race to deflect from obviously racist actions as is the case in the variety of affirmative action policies held by our various American government and private enterprises.

Using others as pawns when you are not prepared to take action yourself is wrong. In this case, it is racism and bigotry squared. The Northern Alliance is not even close to understanding that they are about to be discarded and demonized should they try and maintain control of their own nation.

[Zviadist]

You will never understand that somebody has to be #1.

Another fine product of the American media/education propadanda system. This has to be the stupidest rationale for America's constant bullying the rest of the world I have seen. "Well, somebody has to bully these people and it may as well be us." Asinine is the only way I can describe it. Oh...and suicidal.

[Demidog]

I don't watch TV. That will rot your brain. I am pissed because we haven't fought a constitutional war in over 50 years. To our masters, the constitution is toilet paper.

[sinkspur]

You would have preferred to watch TV every day for the body counts on each side to sort of equalize like 150 enemy and 96 friendlies. Then 200 friendlies to a meager 50 enemy dead. This process would then satisfy your need to view a fair fight.

Nope. Demigod ALWAYS wants more dead Americans.

Specifically, more dead white Republican Americans.

Wes jus be mean ole racist bullies.

Just call him Reverend Demigod Jackson!

[Demidog]

Civilians run the military, hoot-man.

Are you suggesting that there are no civilian cowards?

[Torie]

I believe the Afghans and Arab Osama crowd are "white," just like Mr. Walker. Perhaps you meant to use another word than "racist," perhaps say "non-European ancestry" or something. Whatever you meant to say, your opinion I suspect is close to being sui generis to just you among Americans. Most of us don't have a problem helping others liberate themselves, while achieving our just and essential objectives to protect American lives at home, at the minimum possible cost of American life. Perhaps if you had a child in the military, it might focus you a bit more.

[Roscoe]

You do not refrain from calling KKK members racists when it is obvious they are racists.

When the KKK spews racist nonsense, such as asserting that white couples don't have to get marriage licenses, they are obvious.

[Demidog]

The supposed goal of this action is not to liberate anyone. It is supposedly to wipe out terrorism everywhere.

Our actions show a complete disregard for human life. To many, the Northern alliance and the Taliban whom we are using like chess pieces on a board, are just "Rags" (Sinkspur's favorite word for them).

There can be no justification for that sort of total disregard for human life.

[A Navy Vet]

"...it might focus you a bit more."

Just for your info, I"ve watched demidog debate all over the net and "focus" is not one of his strengths. I'm actually surprised he hasn't morphed this conversation into something totally unrecognizable...although the racism remarks are pretty much off the wall.

[Torie]

There can be no justification for that sort of total disregard for human life.

Another sui generis point of view - for an American.

[Demidog]

Correct. And when Americans call Afghani's "Rags" and that using them like toys is "Strategy" and "Excellent" they are also obvious. Hope that helps.

[Demidog]

I notice that you have no other rational justification for that behavior except to insinuate that it's a bizarre view to value all human life.

[sinkspur]

Using others as pawns when you are not prepared to take action yourself is wrong.

Yep. You're just plain stupid.

Dropping bombs is not taking action. Sending in special ops to work with the NA is not taking action. Coordinating movements with the NA is not taking action.

Nobody's listening to you, Demigod.

You and Zviadist are like a couple of teenage girls who wear each other's clothes while the rest of us just sit here and laugh like hell.

[Cold Heat]

Do you deny the fact that the Northern alliance does not want us in their country anymore that the Taliban does? Do you realize that if the Afgans decided to be non-combatents in this war that we would have 100,000 troops over there. We are only rolling with the flow and using the tools that are available. We are not forcing them to engage the enemy.

If we inserted the requisite number of troops needed for this operation and the Afgans participated like they are now, the death toll on the Afgan side would be staggering. These guys don't wear uniforms. It would be a huge UN syle failure. In this case it is better to let the locals do the ground operation with our support. The job is getting done beautifully.

[Demidog]

Dropping bombs is not taking action.

It doesn't put your own pawns at risk in the same fashion does it? I know you're just unwilling to grasp that, so I won't expect an answer.