AMD nibbles at Intel business PC market share

The Register ^ | 12/12/2001 | Tony Smith

[america76]

Buy some stock. Good product and a company on the move. As good a gamble as any.

[peabers]

Between the cost of RDRAM, the price of the processors and performance, I can't think of single reason to use an Intel P4 over an AMD XP.

Which is why Intel is leaning towards DDR. I use nothing but AMD these days (except for one PII-450 box that I'm converting into a Linux Samba server and a P133 that I use as a router/firewall on my ADSL connection).

[donozark]

Mine was 533

[donozark]

It does.

[donozark]

How long have you run XP? Any problems?

[donozark]

No idea. First Pentium I have run in years. I ran AMD for sometime, would still be running it but won a new IBM X-41 in a sweepstakes. Can't beat the price...

[donozark]

Opps! Ignor 25! Wrong poster.

[donozark]

How long have you run XP? Any problems?

[Bogey78O]

About 5 weeks. No problems whatso ever. Except that my modem is not verisigned (although it works perfectly) so It gives me an notice every restart. But since I haven't had to restart it in over a week It's no problem. It's a decent OS, better than anything else Windows makes.

[beckett]

No idea. First Pentium I have run in years. I ran AMD for sometime, would still be running it but won a new IBM X-41 in a sweepstakes. Can't beat the price...

You might want to look into it. PIII has a serial number installed that permanently IDs your individual machine to any website set up to read it. After the initial uproar from the public denouncing the feature, Intel set the serial number system up so that chips are shipped with the number disabled. But it's not disabled with a dipswitch or a hardware feature of any kind. It is disabled by software alone. So all some hacker has to do to enable it again is run a program with the requisite commands and then induce a machine restart.

Once that number is active on your machine, your specific machine has a serial number ID on the internet that no proxy software can mask.

There was talk that since the feature was so unpopular Intel would discontinue installing it on chip models after PIII. But I haven't been able to establish for certain that PIV doesn't have it, which is why I asked you about it.

[Quix]

PLEASE LET ME TROUBLE YOU WITH A QUESTION.

I'm a mostly self-supporting missionary in Taiwan. A friend here who does such things, has built me the following:

AMD 1Gigahertz CPU (about a year or so old), a RAID MIRROR SYSTEM USING 2 80GIGABYTE HARD DRIVES AS C DRIVE; A 40 Gigabyte HD; a 25 GIG HD and a 6 GIG HD; a DVD/CDROM AND a PlexWriter CDburner; Win 2000 P (planning on using XP if they ever settle it down some and some of the junky stuff with registration gets mellowed out--I tend to change hardware components every 8-12 months). An ADSL connection; a high quality Epson scanner and a high quality Epson photo stylus printer. etc.

I'm aware that there are now 2 CPU mother boards available here. I'm curious how you think the AMD XP CPU would perform in my above system and then in the same system with an new motherboard and 2 AMD XP CPU'S.

Am also contemplating Linux and the Sun Operating System or suite of software.

My friend here is pretty knowledgeable but not a cracker jack. I'd deeply appreciate a 2nd opinion given all your experience and expertise.

I use a fair amount of pics as gifts to students--A4 size poster types of things.

Thanks for your help to so many Freepers.

[Quix]

FORGOT TO NOTE that I have 1 GIGABYTE OF HARDWARE RAM. . . which seems, for some reason, to work out to 800+ MB of free RAM due to addressing overhead???

[monkeyshine]

You got that right. I built a machine last month AMD XP 1.7 processor ($229 w/ fan) and 512MB DDRRAM ($80). Add windows XP and a $99 6 slot motherboard how could you go wrong? It screams. DSL seems to run faster but I think it's just processing it faster. No complaints but one -- after switching around peripherals/sound/video I had to re-register MS XP. But that's MS's crap... not a hardware problem.

[monkeyshine]

That's why I didn't buy a P3 and got a K6-2 450 3 years ago. Then when I built this machine I went to AMD again. As I was buying it they told me intel no longer puts a serial number on it. I said "good for them, but it's too late now. I already know their intentions are no good.. I'm sticking with AMD." Another guy in the store was switching from intel to AMD -- he said he felt like a traitor but couldn't in his mind figure out why he should buy the intel chip.

[Oschisms]

Actually, I haven't tweaked my XP at all. I got pretty good DSL speed right after installing, so I didn't bother. The place to go to learn to make your DSL faster is:

A good DSL site

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

I think the K-6 was 150mhz. That should explain it...

In that case, the K-6 should obviously be half again as fast as a 100 mhz Alpha chip...

[peabers]

What motherboard are you using?

[Quix]

ASUS--IF YOU WANT SPECIFICS, I'LL OPEN THE MACHINE UP. BUT IT'S A LATE MODEL ASUS, THANKS BIG

[RadioAstronomer]

So what, who cares if they have a chip ID. I change chips all the time. (I build my own computers). And a hacker getting in to change that parameter in your bios is pretty slim.

[Smedley]

The 845 chipset uses SDRAM. The 850 uses RDRAM

does anyone have ANY INFO on the 845MG?????