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Confederate group fighting what some call war of Southern regression
al.com ^ | 12/08/01 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 12/09/2001 3:44:54 AM PST by shuckmaster

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Aw, Shucks!


1 posted on 12/09/2001 3:44:54 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: *dixie_list; cowpoke; stand watie; basil; VinnyTex; wasp69; rockfish59; Moose4; CWRWinger...
Let me know here or by Freepmail if you want to be added to or removed from my Dixie ping list.
2 posted on 12/09/2001 3:46:11 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: shuckmaster

26th South Carolina Volunteers
(my g-g-grandfather's regimental flag)

Add this Southern Partisan to your list please.

3 posted on 12/09/2001 4:02:25 AM PST by Godebert
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To: shuckmaster
Any stand on this issue, Shuck?
4 posted on 12/09/2001 4:03:47 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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IMO, the SCV has been in retreat from key issues surrounding Southern Heritage for years. This retreat has left them looking weak politically and spiritually. The SCV needs more character and backbone to miltantly fight against those who wish to destroy Southern Hertiage. The SCV needs to go on the offense.

By not taking a leadership role for Souhtern Heritage, the SCV may be leaving itself open to opportunists who sense the voids and use weaknesses to promote their agenda. Hopefully, Mr Lyons motives are to improve the SCV.

5 posted on 12/09/2001 4:27:06 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: shuckmaster
Kirk Lyons' past connections leave ourenemies are a weakness in our movement. I don't know the man, or his true motivations, but the leftist/Yankee media can rightfully point all this dirt out, and we've no defense. Deo Vindice. The Kid.
7 posted on 12/09/2001 6:04:46 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Non-Sequitur
Well, I see the busy body barnacles have once again attached themselves to the great, unstoppable ship of the South. Did you have a nice swim over here this morning?

Really now, what's it to ya?

8 posted on 12/09/2001 6:08:42 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: CWRWinger
Just curious on where he stands. What's it to you?
9 posted on 12/09/2001 6:09:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: shuckmaster
I apologize for the sloppy post. Meant to say Kirk Lyons (a man with questionable past associations) needs to step away from us, slowly and gracefully, the same way Newt Gingrich (an adulterer and lapdog for the Red Chinese) needs to go away from the Republicans. The Kid.
10 posted on 12/09/2001 6:25:23 AM PST by warchild9
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To: shuckmaster; l8pilot; LadyJD; Rite of center
This article also appeared in the Orangeburg, SC, Times and Democrapp.
11 posted on 12/09/2001 6:34:02 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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"people will perceive the SCV as a racist organization."

The "tolerant" left already does. That's why the NAACP fights the SCV license plates. They will see the SCV as a racist organization no matter who is elected.

12 posted on 12/09/2001 6:38:00 AM PST by aomagrat
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To: FreetheSouth!
You're probably already on the shuckmaster's bump list, but just in case, I wanted to make sure you saw this. BTW, they seemed like a great bunch of folks. Hope we'll get some new FReepers from the group.
13 posted on 12/09/2001 6:44:22 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: warchild9
I don't know the man, or his true motivations

If his bid does nothing but jolt these grannies into fullfilling the SCV pledge, then so be it. Unlike their ancestors, the SCV has cowered at every battle. They and the UDC may be the bloodline of the Confederacy, but they certainly are not connected in spirit.

14 posted on 12/09/2001 6:52:05 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: aomagrat
I think that's the point. The SCV is already misunderstood and libeled by it's enemies. The last thing you need is a leader with the baggage that Kirk Lyons brings with him. You'll have the NAACP and the SPLC equating you with the Aryan Nations and the KKK and who knows what else.
15 posted on 12/09/2001 6:52:12 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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It looks like the author oversimplifies things and reduces the question to two starkly contrasted alternatives, when other views and opinions are possible. Still, he does capture the boredom, suspicion, and exasperation that Southern Nationalism awakens in most people.
16 posted on 12/09/2001 6:56:38 AM PST by x
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To: shuckmaster
Company K, 9th Regiment Georgia Volunteer Infantry

My g-g-g-grandfather's Regimental Flag

Please add me to the ping list

17 posted on 12/09/2001 6:56:55 AM PST by caseyblane
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To: D Joyce
Then by all means install Kirk Lyons as your head. Your enemies will thank you if you do. The mainstream press will love the Aryan Nations connection and will play that for all it's worth.
19 posted on 12/09/2001 7:26:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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I don't know the man, or his true motivations, but the leftist/Yankee media can rightfully point all this dirt out, and we've no defense.

I'm neither leftist nor Yankee but the following says it all for me:

Before he's even heard the complaints against him, Lyons begins to recite the "little litany of things that I've supposedly done or said or been." It starts with his 1990 marriage at the Aryan Nations Church in a ceremony performed by neo-Nazi leader Richard Butler.
If this had been a 1960 marriage I might be inclined to cut a little slack.  But, by 1990 everybody knew what a POS Richard Butler and his organization were.

Get rid of him.

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20 posted on 12/09/2001 7:59:40 AM PST by JCG
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