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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: OhREALLY?
'Cause of that "Top Ten Brahmin Fusion Drummers" list?

Hey, they're Americans, too!

3,161 posted on 12/02/2001 11:00:34 PM PST by alcuin
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To: GalFromTheBay
Can you read? I went to Delphi and I couldn't find your posts from the crappy search mechanism. Why don't you post them here maybe you have better luck, I noticed you logged in there very recently.
3,162 posted on 12/02/2001 11:17:33 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Please don't tell me someone is obsessing over this AGAIN??? Oh boy.
3,163 posted on 12/02/2001 11:25:39 PM PST by Neets
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To: OneidaM
Looks like it.....
3,164 posted on 12/02/2001 11:29:19 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
She is almost as predictable as a womans monthly cycle.
3,165 posted on 12/02/2001 11:31:09 PM PST by Neets
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To: Freeman Patrick Henry
...has anyone seen Alan Chapman?

I saw him just a moment ago.

Is he banned?

Not yet. Although the word on the street is that certain individuals have become trigger happy with the abuse button around here and bragged about it to others. Apparently they don't understand that the purpose of the abuse button is to notify management of innappropriate posts and not to silence people with whom they have disagreements.

You're saying he died?

I'm alive and well. In fact, I visit FR almost daily to see what people are saying about current events. But, lately I haven't felt very inclined to participate in the discourse. Observe how viciously attacked people are for any criticism of Bush and Republican legislators. When things have settled down and people decide to debate in a civilized manner I will participate.

3,166 posted on 12/02/2001 11:56:51 PM PST by Alan Chapman
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To: Torie
Maybe he quit because of the cogency and intensity of my argumentation against his ideas when we briefly crossed paths.

Keep dreaming :)

3,167 posted on 12/02/2001 11:59:18 PM PST by Alan Chapman
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To: Bob J
Arator, reagrdless of what it looks like, I mostly banter around with you in jest, so don't take it too seriously. Actually, I have no major beefs with you and did believe you wanted the right thing for your website. To be honest, I was hoping you would be successful as some of my best friends on FR are paleo types (we agree to disagree on some issues...heheh). I do believe if you had kept the Afers out it could have had a shot.

How about we call a truce?

You mean we were at war? LOL. BobJ, I could quote your own words right back at you: "regardless of what it looks like, I mostly banter around with you in jest, so don't take it too seriously."

I thought your sewer and car wash cracks were hilarious.

See, BobJ, that's one of the problems with posting to the internet. The text just lays there. You may post it with completely high spirits, jocularity, and good will and the reader may impute a complete different emotion to it. Folks should know that nearly all of my posts are over-the-top to provoke, but there is never any malice in them and it would be a mistake to read it into them. I'm just a big lovable fuzzball who bears nothing but good will for my fellow man. LOL.

Peace, brother. I'll disappear once more, but this time through the smokey haze of the peace pipe we just smoked...

3,168 posted on 12/03/2001 12:46:21 AM PST by Arator
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To: OhREALLY?
Once you come down from whatever overdose you're on, maybe you can explain what the heck is sexist about my post. I in fact don't know -- or care -- about the gender of the poster. Apparently, YOU'RE the only one who does.
3,169 posted on 12/03/2001 3:29:24 AM PST by IronJack
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To: OhREALLY?
If you have ever read any of IJ's posts you would know. He never misses an opportunity to put the little wimmin' in their place.

Citations, please? These are some pretty serious charges, and I'd like to see your evidence.

3,170 posted on 12/03/2001 3:31:12 AM PST by IronJack
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Hey, I have a fundraising suggestion. How about someone makes up some
"I Mixed It Up in the Free Republic Ten Thousand Message Complaint-O-Rama Thread That Wouldn't Die

And Didn't Get Banned"

t-shirts and coffee mugs? I've read every blessed message on this puppy and, so far, not a single part of my body has fallen off.
3,171 posted on 12/03/2001 4:39:43 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: Arator; Howlin
9.
3,172 posted on 12/03/2001 5:11:36 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: John Robinson
Regarding #1410, the user has "fixed" his website so that it no longer attempts to install Comet Cursor. If you want, feel free to restore that reply. Thanks.
3,173 posted on 12/03/2001 5:15:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: A_dutiful_daughter
Hi,

You wrote:

I understand it does not have to. I just don't understand why they wouldn't want to, to shut up the people who are implying fraud. I almost gag at the thought of saying this, but if you have nothing to be ashamed of, why hide it. As a conservative, it drives me nuts to have someone say this about government intrusion into private affairs, but I'm not the government and this doesn't seem to be private as it asks for and accepts public money.

The sad truth of the matter is that I fear nothing, including FR supplying all the requested information, would stop those who have been so critical of FR from continuing to be so critical.

Let's understand something. FR is an LLC they are not required to disclose the vast majority of what is being asked for. Z2 has made the implications that some laws are not being adhered to by FR. Why waste that statement here and just notify the authorities? My belief is that Z2's implication is baseless.

You made a polite post. Polite does not entitle you to the information requested. Knowing that, you need to make a decision on if you want to continue utilizing FR. But, MAKE THE DECISION. And once you do, if the decision is not to participate in FR, please resist those who have made it a mission, perhaps even a crusade, to try and "bring down" FR.

I belong to an association that over the past several years has been nuked by a small and vocal group of disruptors, who have seen fit to, when the discussions on the facts were not going their way, to dig through people's personal lives. These same people are are now angry that the association membership is down and the services and programs of the association are not being used, which means loss of revenue. My guess is that some of them wanted to just complain about something and now it is about how the association is not as active. But they know why things are bad. People got sick of the bickering and the fighting and the accusations.

Jim gave these folks a chance to air their views. With that said, I hope that Jim will just ignore their requests for further information. If they feel a need to get the information they so desire, let THEM put up some money and take the matter into the legal system, is my view. But right now, there are a few folks who are what I wouild call "high maintenance" folks. This is what the association I belong to has done. The group of disruptors is entitled to what the Cont and ByLaws say they are and no more. Requests for additional information above and beyond what is required are not being responded to. And the Secretary of the association says it is like a rock being lifted off her chest.

3,174 posted on 12/03/2001 5:19:08 AM PST by Fury
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To: IronJack
Mostly because it never works. Jim has never tried to hide anything, but the serpent's seed of doubt grows well in small minds, so the AF's are never content with any explanation given. This war goes on continuously, has for years. By now, all the concerns have been addressed a thousand times, yet every six months or so we have to have this exercise. Why? Because the questions aren't a means toward an end. The questioners aren't interested in truth, but in indicting this site through innuendo, diversion, and just plain repetition.

You are so right. You are so right. Great comments!

3,175 posted on 12/03/2001 5:21:31 AM PST by Fury
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To: Admin Moderator
"If you want, feel free to restore that reply"

That was awfully nice of you…I'm sure John appreciates getting your permission to do want he wants.

3,176 posted on 12/03/2001 5:21:33 AM PST by Scuttlebutt
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To: OhREALLY?
If you have ever read any of IJ's posts you would know. He never misses an opportunity to put the little wimmin' in their place.

I have, and I don't agree with your assessment.

3,177 posted on 12/03/2001 5:38:04 AM PST by abner
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To: Howlin
I see the second wave hit on Sunday.

Arator darts in and out of saying that he is leaving and then not leaving. It is truly sad to see someone who has such little self control.

Z2 can't stop either I see. Sounds just like one of the disruptors in the association I belong to.

This thread has done one good thing - shown that there are some people who want to see FR fall, no matter what it takes, and how much they dislike, and perhaps even hate FR. It is sad.

3,178 posted on 12/03/2001 5:44:29 AM PST by Fury
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To: OhREALLY?
If you have ever read any of IJ's posts you would know. He never misses an opportunity to put the little wimmin' in their place.

Having met IJ and more importantly Mrs. IJ I find that the only appropriate way to respond to your post is with the mantra of the afers "Oh my sides!"

Mrs. IJ is hardly the shrinking violet type and I'm sure she's getting quite the laugh at the notion and characterization of little wimmin'.

Once again for the record....OH MY SIDES!

3,179 posted on 12/03/2001 5:49:45 AM PST by ReaganGirl
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To: Fury
LOL...Arator's I'm leaving....no I'm not....now I'm really leaving...ok, I'm leaving in a minute...through the mist...no I'm not leaving, ok now i'm leaving for good, but not through the mist -- through the snow...routine reminds me of the Clinton's farewell from Washington.

Eleven months later and they're still holding farewell receptions and popping up all over the place.

Arator is all too clintonesque. I'm sure eleven months from now he'll still be bumping this thread.

3,180 posted on 12/03/2001 5:54:21 AM PST by ReaganGirl
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