Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson
There you go again. Arator and I were MENTIONED in a POST written by the OWNER of this site. THE OWNER of the site lifted our banned status and INVITED us to post here.
How that could be translated into a play for attention on the part of Arator and I is anyone's guess.
Must be a way to lower cost without sacrificing quality.
LOL! Well, it certainly wasn't OUR ploy for attention, but I have to admit, I'm loving every minute of it. This has been a blast. LOL.
What exactly is wrong with you? What would make any person sit with a browser open and watch another site and copy and paste on YOUR site what we are saying and comment on it? What would make somebody do that ALL DAY LONG??????
Don't you think that sounds kind of pathetic? Do you just lurk here, hoping Jim will let you on, so you can come in and give us chapter and verse about what's wrong with the place, therefore wrong with us?
You're almost as bad as eschoir.
My opinions were specifically asked for. Remember the saying
Don't ask a question you don't want to know the answer to
If the LAT/WP lawsuit went against FR because of bad legal counsel, then why do you insist on blaming Jim?
Aside from deciding who to blame, I simply do not feel compelled to pay off the debt myself.
And as for pushing Jim's personal political agenda, two things: This is now and has always been a political forum, and the owner is certainly entitled to his political views. If he can use that bully pulpit to push that agenda, that's free speech.
But you cannot expect it both ways. If you want to be independent then don't ty to get others to pay the bills. If you want others to pay the bills then don't insist on independence. This is basic.
That said, Jim posts very seldom, and generally only on issues dealing with the site itself. His political views are probably unknown to most of the posters here, although I think they can guess he is somewhat conservative.
True, and when he is candid about his views he risks , and sometimes does, lose followers. Politics 101.
Since you presume to know what his views are, enlighten us. How does Jim stand on [fill in issue here]? You've cast aspersions on Jim and this site, and hinted at all sorts of improprieties and irregularities. But you don't have any of your own money at stake,
Correct , and happy about that.
nor any of your own time or effort invested. You sound like an outsider looking in, a forlorn keyboard commando.
I have invested a modest amount of my time here, and I did invest a modest amount of my hopes here. I have lowered my expectations about what to expect here, and generally enjoy being here now.
Maybe when you get 50,000 registered users on your own website, you can stop by and give us the benefit of your vast experience, including how you have never been swayed to make a bad decision or to be so generous as to invite your enemies to take potshots at you.
I have no desire to start a website. When I started posting here it was done as Jim's hobby. The site was not a business, and there was a different atmosphere here. The site is business now. That is ok with me. I just don't want to pay for it.
If Jim Robinson wasn't so gracious, you wouldn't be here on this forum telling us how ungracious he is. I hope you appreciate the paradox. None dare call it hypocrisy
When you go fishing for Bass, you have to expect to catch some bullheads.
I agree 1000%, Grit.
I noticed you showed up and took advantage of the offer. Who looks silly?
I suggest you read post 519 in which in was stated there was no intention to post further, and then proceeded to post, and post and post.
It's the personal responsibility thing. JimRob extends an offer, you accept. Of course, you, et al are responsible for your own posts, which is woefully evident, even from this distant quarter.
For FR being in such poor shape as you and others suggest, I am sure there are many who are glad you are back to help steer the rudder of FR back on course. Of course, you don't seem to be all that complementary of FR, nor do some others, while at the same time, using FR as a soapbox to espouse your dislike of FR, and not just constructive comments, but comments that serve a full and hearty plate of criticism to FR.
If that ability to express one's self (within reason) is not a powerful reminder of how valuable FR is, then someone show another example. And when you obtain the fortitude to develop a site that that is an alternatove for FR, please let us know, so we may see how you have improved on the concept of FR.
We really are lucky to have you back.
Saying.......and truly meaning........all of the above, having read many of your replies here and on the "Reformation Reunion" (or whatever it's called; sorry to say I've ALREADY forgotten after spending HOURS there this afternoon at TKE's urging), I've also come to the conclusion that you ARE, in fact, incredibly self-absorbed. I don't say that to be obnoxious or overly rude to you, Arator, but dude...........you've gotta step away from that mirror for just a few.
You seem to delight in razzing this forum, its denizens, its owner. What the hell for? If you have some hard-on for Jim, work it out like a man. Pick up a phone. Go see him and talk it out. Just get over it. We're supposed to be working together to whip the liberal a**holes that abound all around us........and now, the terrorist forces wreaking havoc. This petty, childish sniping has just got to stop.
I don't know your background, Arator, but I'll tell you this about myself: I'm a 46 year old father of 7, from ages 2 months to 22 years. I'm a former Aircraft Commander in the Strategic Air Command and spent years spending a third of my life underground, ready to go to nuclear war. I now work for a HUGE, Fortune 10 computer company.........and work my butt off there to better my family and my company. I also am working on various projects outside of work that I hope, in some small way, just might help my country, as well. That just might explain a tad why I find this all so...............sad, as well as ridiculous.
We need folks like you, Harry, TKE, et al to do the same, to cut the third-grade playground arguing and WORK with us. If it isn't you, it'll be others.........I just happen to think that, the nonsensical bluster aside, you have a lot to offer.
You can scoff at this or get pissed or ignore it; certainly your choice. I just hope that you take it in the spirit in which it's intended. I've spent far too much time on this..............topic.................today, but I felt it necessary (and I was only able to since I decided to work from home today to catch up on a lot of work projects; go figure.........) and I felt I, in some way, owed it to you and the others to check this out thoroughly, from top to bottom as best I could in the limited time I had. Either way, God bless.
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