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What You Should Really Fear
Lew Rockwell ^ | 11/24/01 | Brad Edmonds

Posted on 11/24/2001 4:26:19 AM PST by Ada Coddington

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And just think--our Congresscritters passed this horror without reading it.
1 posted on 11/24/2001 4:26:19 AM PST by Ada Coddington (ACoddington@Compuserve.com)
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To: Ada Coddington
At the president time, President George W. Bush has my full, complete, and whole-hearted support. He shows all the signs of greatness. His countenance may well grace Mount Rushmore--or a comparable monument--one day.

However, as this article cautions, his legacy could turn out to be the antithesis of what we hope and expect.

If G. W. Bush is a great man--if he is Mount Rushmore material--he will dispatch America's external enemies forthwith--and then direct his attention to America's internal enemies.

This could well mean the revocation of the Patriot Bill and its provisions--as a starter.

The threat from within is a far greater danger to the United States, to liberty, and to the people of the world, than is the threat from without.

The war on terrorism is childs play compared to the real challenge--the threat from WITHIN.

Americans must insist that George W. Bush understand this.

And Americans must assure that George W. Bush rises to the real challenge.

2 posted on 11/24/2001 5:32:35 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Savage Beast
I won't hold my breath for Bush. He hasn't given any indication at all that he's worthy of a bumpersticker, let alone a monument. My cautious optimism for him evaporated sometime in February, but I'll leave others to their delusions.
3 posted on 11/24/2001 5:42:17 AM PST by Twodees
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At the present time, I have nothing but praise, respect, admiration, and wholehearted support for George Bush.

I may be the victim of a delusion.

I hope not.

Nothing is more dangerous than self-deception.

I have been disillusioned before--many times. I have shown good judgment and bad judgment. Generally speaking, my judgment has proven sound.

Time will tell.

This is could well be the most dangerous time in American history--more dangerous than the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, or World War II.

Americans must be extremely cautious and extremely vigilant! We are all in danger--from without--and from within.

5 posted on 11/24/2001 6:07:06 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: tex-oma
"Sheeple prefer being led by the shepherd, don't they?"

Yes.

I am not one of them.

We need leaders, and George Bush is a good one. We also need to keep them on a tight rein--even...no, especially--the best of them.

That's what I advocate: keep them on a tight rein and watch them like a hawk.

In other words: "The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

6 posted on 11/24/2001 6:15:47 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Savage Beast
Well said.Who knows what next week,next month or next year holds for us.We are living in forever changing times.I am not happy that our constitution is being trashed but I am not happy about the WTC and the people that did it.I just hope that with GW,up to his ass in aligators, that he doesn't forget his initial ojective was to drain the swamp.
7 posted on 11/24/2001 6:16:33 AM PST by eastforker
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Also well said, and with such eloquence.

We need to make sure that the meanest alligators snapping at his ass are We, The People--and that We make damn sure he drains the swamp!

8 posted on 11/24/2001 6:24:50 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Savage Beast
"We also need to keep them on a tight rein--even...no, especially--the best of them."

Impossible, as evidenced by the continual unabated growth of our federal government. We can not reign it in. It grew by seizing bits of power wherever the majority allows it. The fact is that everything that it does has majority approval. To change it would require changing the minds of the majority. To keep a tight reign on it would require oversite as large and powerful as it is.
11 posted on 11/24/2001 7:21:58 AM PST by gjenkins
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You may be right. If so, we have already seen the beginning of the end.
12 posted on 11/24/2001 7:32:26 AM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Ada Coddington; sirgawain; Mercuria; tex-oma
Anyone who’s been thinking that the erosion of civil liberties following 9/11 would be minimal, justified, nonintrusive, nonthreatening, or would contribute to the security of American civilians, should have known better.

H.R.3162.

13 posted on 11/24/2001 7:52:17 AM PST by MadameAxe
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To: Savage Beast
I really hate being a pessimist ... but there you have it.
14 posted on 11/24/2001 7:59:46 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: tex-oma
Sheeple prefer being led by the shepherd, don't they?

And who's the man for that job?

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it."-G.W. Bush

...and let's not forget this one:

"We can support our troops and not support our president."-Trent Lott

15 posted on 11/24/2001 8:15:15 AM PST by Marathon Man
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To: gjenkins
. The fact is that everything that it does has majority approval

You sir, or madam, as the case may be, have hit the proverbial nail squarely on it's head. We the people have no one to blame but ourselves. The power-hungry politicians are just doing what comes naturally to would-be tyrants. It's in their nature, they are no more to blame for the mess we're in than the rabid dog is to blame for biting you. They will go just as far as the people will allow them to go, and the people are urging them to go even farther every day. The people who want to be cared for by an omnipotent government are now in the majority and have been for the last 7 decades. It isn't going to get any better.

16 posted on 11/24/2001 8:15:35 AM PST by epow
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To: epow
Yep, as much as I hate the collective mode of thought, we can not solve these problems until we collectively change our mind ... from democracy and collectivism back to individual rights.
17 posted on 11/24/2001 8:25:56 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: Ada Coddington
i am concerned about our civil liberties and i do not want to be in a police state. i am fine with this bill if it is only used to battle terrorists. but i see two problems:

it will be used for other criminal activities

nobody has put forth a credible alternative that would protect us from terrorists

while i strongly oppose pornography and misdemeanor drug violations, i would hate to see this law used in investigations of this sort sometime in the future. our government continues to grow and usurps resources from us to keep us safe from others, and from ourselves. don't laugh, the politically correct movement is really an extension of this.

i propose that we let this bill alone. but we limit the taxing and spending that the government can do and we insist on a balanced budget -- constitutionally. limiting taxing must be a significant reduction -- not a slowing in the rate of growth.

politicians are not stupid. if we provide them with the groundrules, they will figure out how to protect us as efficiently as possible (with as little money as a beaurocracy can do). they simply will not be able to spend the money to extend this bill to cover other criminal investigations.

it all comes down to money -- not because we are greedy, but because it represents what resources we have. let's force the government into more of a business decision making mode and less into an ideological warfare campaign.

18 posted on 11/24/2001 8:31:54 AM PST by mlocher
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To: Ada Coddington
Re: Post #1....They pass everything without reading it!

This gives them plausable deniability, while, at the same time, giving them exactly what they most desire.....more power with which to rule/control the peasants.

19 posted on 11/24/2001 8:36:11 AM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Savage Beast
Who is the threat from Within?

Some people (well, not people n this website, but think in terms of the Socialist Liberal Left Wing) would say "Right Wing Fundamentalist Christian Militia Types".

And therein lies the danger. The opinions of those who are going to be enforcing the law may differ from what you and I think the intended targets should be...

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If G. W. Bush is a great man--if he is Mount Rushmore material--he will dispatch America's external enemies forthwith--and then direct his attention to America's internal enemies.

This could well mean the revocation of the Patriot Bill and its provisions--as a starter.

The threat from within is a far greater danger to the United States, to liberty, and to the people of the world, than is the threat from without.

The war on terrorism is childs play compared to the real challenge--the threat from WITHIN.

Americans must insist that George W. Bush understand this.

And Americans must assure that George W. Bush rises to the real challenge.

20 posted on 11/24/2001 8:47:03 AM PST by Sceaming_Gerbil
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