Santa Ana adapts to culture changes ( Interesting facts on B1's Ex-District in CA )

montereyca.com ^ | 11/23/2001 | By CHELSEA J. CARTER of AP

[gerg]

The funniest thing happened when I went to southern California recently: I stopped in a Chinese Restaurant and the man who took my order talked to me in fluent English, then in Chinese to a woman who was cooking the food. As I went to sit down, in walks a Mexican woman. She walked up to the counter and proceeded to talk to the Chinese man in Spanish. I was amazed when he responded to her in fluent Spanish! Yes, this happened in San Diego, but it's still southern California. But really folks, my ancestors had to learn English (except the English ones), they should too.

[sarcasm]

California officials are considering cuts to the $26-billion budget for Medi-Cal, the state's version of Medicaid.

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Nearly 6 million Californians were eligible for Medicaid last month, up 700,000 from a year earlier.

[Hostage]

California's department of education allots >10k per child for budgeting. Because schools are not allowed to ask nationality or legal status of children who are enrolled (in defiance of Prop 187), then it is a fact that children who are here illegally and who are enrolled in a CA public school are subsidized in the same way as any other child.

What's worse fiscally is that these children need further subsidies. Besides school lunch, clothing and healthcare subsidies, these children require bilingual instructors. This guarantees that any teacher hired, any custodian, office worker, playground attendant, nurse and bus driver hired, must be Spanish speaking and this translates in almost every case to being Hispanic.

The perception that there is a takeover by culture is real. Refusing to assimilate, refusing to learn and speak English and claiming minority status, leads to preference in jobs and a gain in benefits and political power. When these things correlate with statements from Mexican leaders, the takeover perception becomes a fact.

[norton]

Sorry, "Yo quero Tacobell" translates very badly into German.

[norton]

Ten Grand apiece might be a lie - to the low side.

The rest is pretty accurate and not limited to Santa Ana or Anaheim.

[norton]

It did go south, 1992 value reverted to 1982 levels, just now back to pre Rodney King but I'm planning to move to A CA Guy's neighborhood because the spread looks a lot closer than it does here. My 225 house would fetch about 45 in a rational market.

Actually, I'm not buying again until I do so in another state, three more years or so.

[FITZ]

You can't continue to run people off who make the big bucks, then replace them with fourth to sixth grade educated people with no skills.

We have the same thing in the area I live in, now 1 out of 3 people is receiving some kind of welfare or food stamps, the taxes are sky high, the middle class (all races) are leaving in droves and no good jobs are moving in because all we have is a very high drop out rate in spite of large amounts of money spent on HeadStart and bilingual ed.

[FITZ]

Refusing to assimilate, refusing to learn and speak English and claiming minority status, leads to preference in jobs and a gain in benefits and political power.

Politicians here actually see lots of federal money for welfare and other programs as a good way to build up the local economy. They don't seem to care about jobs at all, nothing is being done to bring back the middle class, all the solutions are based on how to demand the government to send more money.

[B Knotts]

Why are we knuckling under to these people. It is their responsibility to learn English. If they can't learn English, send them back to where they came from. I am English only and I intend to stay that way!!

Because they own the judges. When I lived in California, we passed English-only and Prop. 187, and judges basically nullified the vote of the people in both cases.

[Geezerette]

You must really be paying some hefty property taxes!!

On an $85,000 valued little patio home in AZ, the tax is $740 per year and rising.

In the past fifteen years, we have had a flood of white Californians, as well as some Latinos. But mostly white. Apartment rents went out of sight, so many of us bought homes.

Just heard on the radio several times this AM that Arizona is now considered the WORST state to live, according to some poll by I think United Way!!!

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[SCalGal]

Part of the problem is that CA is an expensive state to do business in. Worker's comp is very high here- and everyone's heard of our electricity fiasco.

[SCalGal]

Add to the rest of it: they are out-breeding us... The birthrate alone is enough to drown the state in illiterates.

[ken21]

guess who's hubbie is a lawyer, making a killing off of workers' comp?

baboxer.

[boris]

They floated a trial balloon in Santa Ana some while ago. The idea was to give illegal aliens the right to vote in local (city) elections.

The rationale: We must be inclusive. Also, these (illegal) folks must live under the ordinances made by the City Council; should they not have a say?...

I don't know if they got it through or not.

I wrote a letter to the papers (not published):

"These folks are not thinking big enough. What are borders, anyway, except imaginary lines on a map? Let's declare that every human being in the hemisphere is a citizen. That way they can vote by mail-in ballot, and collect welfare, too, without making the arduous trek to el norte."

I suppose the sarcasm wasn't appreciated.

--Boris

[Norb2569]

I bet this is goin' on there in Santa Ana...