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IQ is inherited
newscientist.com ^ | 05 November 01 | Alison Motluk

Posted on 11/21/2001 11:02:28 PM PST by pcl

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To: KSCITYBOY
One of the few certainties in this world is that any measured thing will plot out along the lines of the Bell curve.

That's an interesting statement the Central Limit Theorem. Another is, if a random variable, "Y", is the sum of number of other independendent random variables, Xi, {Y = X1 + X2+ ...+Xn} as the number of independent variables becomes large, {n approachs infinity} the distribution of "Y" approaches a normal distribution, with certain restrictions on the higher moments of the distribution of the underlying variables, the Xi's".

The assumption of a normal distribution is a "model" not a fact of nature. The usefulness of model is limited by how well the actual distribution conforms to the normal and the sensitivity of your conclusions to deviations from this ideal. There are lots of examples in engineering and physics where the assumption of a normal distribution is worthless.

A couple simple counterexamples are useful:

1.) If x1 and x2 are indentically distributed random normal variables and Y = sqrt(x1^2 + x2^2) then Y will assume a rayleigh (not a normal) distribution.

2.) It the distribution of a variable, "Y" is normal, then the distribution of a postive number raised to the "Y" most certainly is not normal. Another way of saying this is that if log10(Z) = Y; Z = 10^Y, (Z might be the thing that I want to measure and plot) either Y may normally distributed or Z but not both.

I'd be happy to tell you a cheerful story wherein Lonesome did not pay attention to the "higher moments of the distribution of the underlying variables" and wound up underestimating the cost of production of a run of 25,000 high performance military receivers by about $250 bucks a unit. What's 6.25 Megabucks among friends?

41 posted on 11/23/2001 5:47:11 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: LadyDoc
I agreee. There have been studies where the children of mothers in the dull mental range have shown average IQ when they were placed in the homes of high IQ adoptive parents. Genetics is the biggest factor but environment and nutrition plays a part as well.
42 posted on 11/23/2001 5:53:32 AM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: d4now
Some guy is getting paid to do research that tells us what anyone who has thought about it already knows.
43 posted on 11/23/2001 5:55:40 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: pcl
Read the book The Bell Curve. Then ask yourself what Blue Nation's future is!
44 posted on 11/23/2001 5:58:59 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: pcl
It works both ways:

"Insanity is inherited...you get it from your children."

47 posted on 11/23/2001 6:12:55 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: stocksthatgoup
Why is it that our grandchildren are so smart when their mothers are married to the dumbest old clumps of humanity to ever walk the earth? (No man is ever good enough for our duaghters, right?)
48 posted on 11/23/2001 6:15:53 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: d4now
Yep, really. Next some scientists will do a ten year study to prove that males are more likely than females to father children. As long as they're given tax revenues to study, they'll find something to study.
49 posted on 11/23/2001 6:23:05 AM PST by Twodees
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To: KSCITYBOY
"There is some software out there, but I think the kids have to be of atleast a certain age before they can measure IQ accurately."

True. The younger the age, the less reliable the tests. Girls, who tend to be more verbal than boys at young ages, will usually have higher scores due to that factor.

One of the problems with "gifted" programs in the public school system is that they tend to test students at young ages when the tests aren't very reliable, and track those kids for the remainder of their years based on those early scores. Things tend to look somewhat different in high school AP/honors classes, when students tend to self select themselves for difficult course work.

And some parents will say that's because "giftedness" is not all academics, but the funny thing "is" that most schools are supposedly testing for "academic" giftedness.....not sculpting or ballet. :)

50 posted on 11/23/2001 6:41:27 AM PST by joathome
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To: pcl
QI is what ???
51 posted on 11/23/2001 6:46:08 AM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: pcl
Yes, I have known this for a long time. Our adopted son is MUCH smarter than is parents (us) & his natural kids are just as smart as he is.
52 posted on 11/23/2001 6:46:26 AM PST by Ditter
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To: AllSmiles
I tested and received my membership to Mensa last year and went to one meeting, just one. Not for me. Some of those people need to get out more
53 posted on 11/23/2001 6:46:53 AM PST by billbears
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To: xm177e2
1. Evil means (lying) will almost never lead to good ends.

2. What good is there in getting less intelligent people to waste their time and effort trying to achieve what they cannot? They will only be discouraged at their failures and think they are worthless. Few people could ever succeed as physicists, for example, and it would be a tragedy to spend years studying only to learn that they are no good or at best mediocre. But almost everyone can do other useful and important things that don't require quite as much brainpower.

So you have to have the golden middle: neither underestimate, nor overestimate your abilities.

55 posted on 11/26/2001 8:21:30 AM PST by GrayBox
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