Dozens of Israeli Jews Are Being Kept in Federal

New York Times ^

[AshleyMontagu]

Or the guy who gunned down about a score of guys praying outdoors? You know, the one (he of blessed memory) that some Jews keep building shrines for.

[exmarine]

Even if that is true, how many Jewish terrorists have ever targeted the U.S. with suicide bombers? There is no comparison. This is absurd. Our govt. is absurd.

[exmarine]

veronica, what ever happened with those Jewish Israelis who were caught filming the WTC horror? You know, those 'furniture movers' who just happened to have cameras rolling at the time. The guys who were high-fiving and laughing while the buildings collapsed?

What is your source for this? I say this is not true. Either put up your source or retract this lie.

[exmarine]

Israel has considerable experience in terrorism.

I am a discerning individual, and I watch events carefully. Let me give you a brief review of pattern of the Israel/PLO conflict:

The Palestinians (who raise their children to believe that Jews are subhuman - just like the Nazis did) kill women and children with suicide bombers and Israel then responds by targeting terrorists responsible and shooting back at police and troops. See the moral difference here in tactics? Then the Palestinains send out their children to die and call them heroes. Do you see anything wrong with this society or am I the only one who has eyes to see?

Now,I ask you: Who are the terrorists and who aren't?

[exmarine]

Did the guy who killed Rabin blow himself up? If that guy was a terrorist, then so is EVERY MURDERER who has ever taken a life. I think you need to rethink the definition of terrorist. You are confused.

[AshleyMontagu]

What is your source for this? I say this is not true. Either put up your source or retract this lie.

Ask and ye shall receive.

5 Israelis detained for `puzzling behavior' after WTC tragedy

[AshleyMontagu]

I await your apology.

[ofMagog]

You might check this:
tracking an internet hoax

[AshleyMontagu]

What does this have to do with what exmarine and I were discussing?

[IWONDR]

From above:

"In New York, immigration officials began deporting five young Israeli moving men who have been in federal custody sinceSept. 11. Two of the deportees, Oded Ellner and Omer Gavriel Marmari, landed in Tel Aviv yesterday. The others, PaulKurzberg and his brother Sivan, and Yaron Shmuel, were expected to fly to Israel today.

"The five aroused attention in New Jersey after people noticed them going to unusual lengths to photograph the World Trade Center ruins and making light of the situation. One photograph developed by the F.B.I. showed Sivan Kurzberg holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage in the background, said Steven Noah Gordon, a lawyer for the five."

Could this have been them?

[Pharmboy]

veronica, what ever happened with those Jewish Israelis who were caught filming the WTC horror? You know, those 'furniture movers' who just happened to have cameras rolling at the time. The guys who were high-fiving and laughing while the buildings collapsed?--from Ashley Montague

What is your source for this? I say this is not true. Either put up your source or retract this lie.--from exmarine

From the article posted on this thread:

The five aroused attention in New Jersey after people noticed them going to unusual lengths to photograph the World Trade Center ruins and making light of the situation. One photograph developed by the F.B.I. showed Sivan Kurzberg holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage in the background, said Steven Noah Gordon, a lawyer for the five.

As objectionable as their behavior may be, Mr. Gordon said of their long incarceration, "It's not a crime and they were being treated as if it was."

[AshleyMontagu]

Could be. For some reason we don't hear anything about this interesting story in the press.

[Patria One]

The conflict in Palestine didn't begin with the PA or Arafat or the Palestinians. Go to the history of the beginning about 1903 when the European Jewish refugees began immigrating to Palestine.

The Palestinian Muslims and Christians were on the receiving end of terrorism as Zionism sought to displace them and make a country of their own.

If they had immigrated in gratitude, friendship and tolerance rather than an expressed determination to take the land and forcibly transfer the natives, there would be no conflict.

[AshleyMontagu]

Thank you. This story was posted on FR at the time. I can't find it now. At first the usual gang claimed that just because they were Israeli didn't mean they couldn't have been Muslims. Then it came out that their families were crying 'anti-Semitism' because the prisoners were not fed kosher food. Once the ethnicity became obvious the whole story disappeared down the memory hole.

[veronica]

Those guys were cleared.

[Aerial]

The five Israeli guys in Jersey who were seen "making light" of the WTC collapse is old news.

Not to me. A lot of us probably missed it.

Shame on them.

[AshleyMontagu]

(Cricket noises in background)

LOL.

[veronica]

There is NO PROOF they were 'making light' of anything.

They had a video, but they have been cleared of any and all charges.

Leave it to the anti-Israel wingnut crowd to try and justify their defense of the Islamic crazies who were dancing in the streets on 9-11 by blaming innocent Israelis.

Pretty lame, but certainly in character.

[veronica]

Talk about cricket noises....why didn't you post that they were cleared?

[AshleyMontagu]

A lot of us probably missed it.

Funny, ain't it? Wonder why most people never heard about this story?