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Harry Potter: 'Making Evil Look Innocent' (Jack Chick Attacks Harry Potter)
Chick Publications ^ | November/December 2001 | Jack Chick

Posted on 11/19/2001 3:13:11 PM PST by PJ-Comix

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To: jrherreid
Ah! "The Death Cookie." One of the Jack Chick classics.
21 posted on 11/19/2001 3:33:02 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
RadicalRik: I want to go to God's Holy Spirit school and learn how to really kick Satan's clymer up into his mouth to stop him from speaking into children's ears "that evil is good".

"J.K. Rowling confirms as the series progresses that more characters will die to emphasize the dastardly nature of evil. She says that only after careful consideration did she decide to include so many deaths to accentuate the deepening conflict between good and evil forces and the resulting victimization of innocents."
I heard in an interview that as the books progress to number 7, there will be more darkness, evil and even sexual secenarios. Well, it's "only natural" the kids are growing up and "hormones will be hormones & libidos will be libidos". Will there be any unwanted pregnancies that will be "spelled" away? Stay tuned.

22 posted on 11/19/2001 3:38:45 PM PST by RadicalRik
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To: PJ-Comix
I can't say that I have a clue as to who Chick is. I can say that I have been the "hop" mom and I have read the books. Here is my take on the books and the movie ( I am speaking as a mom deciding what is best for MY kids and MY kids only ):

I was disturbed. I have heard the "what about Snow White and the Wiz of Oz" arguments and they don't hold water. The older movies were fairy tales. The stories were not as "modern" as the Potter series are. I have told my children fairy tales as I am sure many of us have but I have always told them the truth about the tales, that they are not true and that they are make believe. That is what made them fun. The movies of these tales follow the traditional fairy tale patterns with "Once upon a time" beginnings and "Happily ever after" endings. Potter doesn't.

The HP stories play upon reality more than they do fiction. They are targeted to reach kids on a level that is all too real to them. Real situations are used. Real problems are used ( peer pressure, not liking a teacher, homework, or whathave you ).

I know that kids are smart and I am not underestimating their intelligence and their abilities to sort fact from fiction. I wasn't on the "Pokemon is evil" bandwagon nor anything before it. However, I was disturbed at Tolken's ability to integrate reality with fantasy on such a level. Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn tales were about children who lied, stole and so forth but there was a "normalcy" to them. They more aptly did justice to "boys will be boys" rather than mystifying juvenile behavior.

Whether a child is 5 or 15 there remains the ability to impress them with examples found in stories and movies. How many of us can say that when we were younger we read a certain book or saw a certain movie that left a lasting impression on us or, in some cases, that changed our lives, our way of thingking or believing?

I went into this Potter stuff agreeing to be completely objectional. I came out of it deciding that it was not for MY kids. I try to be very discerning over what I allow into my home and what I allow my kids to be part of. Not because I am a religious fanatic but because I feel that, regardless of what experts may say, my children are impressionable and "real" sorcery isn't something that I wish for them to become impressed with.

23 posted on 11/19/2001 3:39:49 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PJ-Comix
I can't say that I have a clue as to who Chick is. I can say that I have been the "hip" mom and I have read the books. Here is my take on the books and the movie ( I am speaking as a mom deciding what is best for MY kids and MY kids only ):

I was disturbed. I have heard the "what about Snow White and the Wiz of Oz" arguments and they don't hold water. The older movies were fairy tales. The stories were not as "modern" as the Potter series are. I have told my children fairy tales as I am sure many of us have but I have always told them the truth about the tales, that they are not true and that they are make believe. That is what made them fun. The movies of these tales follow the traditional fairy tale patterns with "Once upon a time" beginnings and "Happily ever after" endings. Potter doesn't.

The HP stories play upon reality more than they do fiction. They are targeted to reach kids on a level that is all too real to them. Real situations are used. Real problems are used ( peer pressure, not liking a teacher, homework, or whathave you ).

I know that kids are smart and I am not underestimating their intelligence and their abilities to sort fact from fiction. I wasn't on the "Pokemon is evil" bandwagon nor anything before it. However, I was disturbed at Tolken's ability to integrate reality with fantasy on such a level. Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn tales were about children who lied, stole and so forth but there was a "normalcy" to them. They more aptly did justice to "boys will be boys" rather than mystifying juvenile behavior.

Whether a child is 5 or 15 there remains the ability to impress them with examples found in stories and movies. How many of us can say that when we were younger we read a certain book or saw a certain movie that left a lasting impression on us or, in some cases, that changed our lives, our way of thingking or believing?

I went into this Potter stuff agreeing to be completely objectional. I came out of it deciding that it was not for MY kids. I try to be very discerning over what I allow into my home and what I allow my kids to be part of. Not because I am a religious fanatic but because I feel that, regardless of what experts may say, my children are impressionable and "real" sorcery isn't something that I wish for them to become impressed with.

24 posted on 11/19/2001 3:40:19 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: kd5cts
It's not mysticism. There are basic techincal reasons why the configuration of a SCSI chain requires you to sacrifice a goat and two chickens.
25 posted on 11/19/2001 3:40:25 PM PST by steve-b
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To: PJ-Comix
Wasn't Harry Potter the Colonel on M.A.S.H.??? :-)
27 posted on 11/19/2001 3:41:24 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: general_re
So Harry Potter, born wizard, raised by dull, useless, boring, relatives (who resemble fundamentalist Christians)

The guilty flee when no man pursueth.

28 posted on 11/19/2001 3:41:50 PM PST by steve-b
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To: PJ-Comix
If one assumes that Harry Potter and other childrens' stories that include wizardry and magic are evil and should be banned, then we would have to throw out many of the best childrens' fantasies of the ages. At least Harry Potter promotes loyalty, friendship, bravery and truth, and emphasizes the worth of people who are different or disadvantaged. I saw the Harry Potter movie over the weekend and I liked it. I also read the book. I suppose that I will be doubly damned next month when I go to the Lord of the Rings movie. Sheesh!
29 posted on 11/19/2001 3:44:24 PM PST by Sender
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To: PJ-Comix
I'm going to have to ask and expose my ignorance. I must have been living under a rock - who in the world is Jack Chick? I went to the website just for kicks, but i've never heard of him before.
30 posted on 11/19/2001 3:45:19 PM PST by .38sw
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To: PJ-Comix
Since Jack Chick has his undies all in a bunch about Harry Potter, there's no way anything could be wrong with kids reading it!
31 posted on 11/19/2001 3:45:23 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: PJ-Comix
Saw "Harry Potter" last Friday; the best thing about it was the trailers for "The Fellowship of the Ring" and "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones" which showed beforehand.
32 posted on 11/19/2001 3:46:45 PM PST by Rocko
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To: general_re
No wonder all the Harry Potter bashers around here write like Jack Chick is their intellectual mentor.
33 posted on 11/19/2001 3:46:56 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: PJ-Comix
But let's give Jack Chick the credit he was due---He was the FIRST to expose Halloween.

ummmm....and that's a GOOD thing?

34 posted on 11/19/2001 3:48:56 PM PST by TomB
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To: PJ-Comix
Of all the contaminating garbage that is offered to the public through the visual media, Harry Potter is not even close to being a problem. And trying to portray it as a problem is a foolish waste of time.
35 posted on 11/19/2001 3:49:08 PM PST by Semper
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To: .38sw
I must have been living under a rock - who in the world is Jack Chick?

The greatest cartoonist of our time. His world view is so strange, it makes for incredibly interesting comix.


36 posted on 11/19/2001 3:49:59 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: .38sw
I must have been living under a rock - who in the world is Jack Chick?

He writes "Christian" pamphlets that are in pretty wide circulation. For the most part, they're pretty horrible. He does Christianity a big disservice.

37 posted on 11/19/2001 3:50:00 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: PleaseNoMore
Ok, I am not a complete idiot, I promise. I know the author's name is ROWLING and NOT Tolken ( my son is reading Tolken for a HS lit project and THAT is all I have on my mind ). Now if only he liked Tolken as much as kids like ROWLINGS it would be easy to get him to read more than two pages at a time.......
38 posted on 11/19/2001 3:50:27 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: DallasMike
He writes "Christian" pamphlets that are in pretty wide circulation. For the most part, they're pretty horrible.

But they're FUN to read! Do you think Van Gaugh's paintings would be interesting if he wasn't crazy? No, the guy was such a lunatic that he cut off his own ear....and produced great art.

39 posted on 11/19/2001 3:52:03 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Look at those kids *gasp* using their imaginations! Must be the work of Satan.
40 posted on 11/19/2001 3:52:29 PM PST by realpatriot71
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