I was sent this by the Chairperson of the Women's and Gender's Studies at the University of Toledo. I don't think you need to agree or disagree about the teach-in, but I would say that my free-of-speech is not welcome. I sent the original e-mail in response to the Womens and Gender Stuies doing a Teach-In on November 5 for the 9/11 terrorist attach. The Chairperson wanted to foster understanding about different points of view. Instead of what I said, I should have said I was sorry wee had tall building get in the way of "Freedom Fighters." Charles Hall University of Toledo Student
1 posted on
11/03/2001 12:13:13 PM PST by
pitt
(pitbull@accesstoledo.com)
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To: pitt
What was the content of your e-mail?
2 posted on
11/03/2001 12:18:35 PM PST by
Rudder
To: pitt
Whenever you respond to a liberal with any sort of negative emotion, they use that to dismiss you.
If you attempt to argue facts, they talk you to death and won't stay on the subject. They use emotional knee-jerk reponses themselves but refuse to allow anyone who disagrees with them to do so.
Here, you got the 'sweet reason' and veiled threat response to an emotional e-mail. I would forget it.
4 posted on
11/03/2001 12:20:10 PM PST by
Jim Scott
To: pitt
Looks like ol' at JBarlow@UTNet.UToledo.Edu has definitely been a barely disguised cryptofascist. Not surprised at all to see her sell out to the Taliban so early.
I have a catalog showing the latest prices for burqas in Kabul. Bet she'd bet interested!
5 posted on
11/03/2001 12:20:14 PM PST by
muawiyah
To: pitt
but I have chosen to do so in the hope that you can learn that hate-speech is never appropriate and that there are policies and procedures in place at UT, which you have violated.You got the relevant points from UT's policy to post? I don't think that there's any way that what you said violated university policy, unless saying "crap" is against university policy.
To: pitt
Post your email. what did it say
To: pitt
My orginal e-mail was: Subject: Teach In The answer is simple: Your either with US or or With the Terrorists !!!!
8 posted on
11/03/2001 12:22:55 PM PST by
pitt
To: pitt
Womyn's Studies student can't take someone protesting her campus-wide email and runs crying to the department "chair", who proceeds to threaten you with "federal regulations".
They really teach these womyn to be "independent" and "stand up for themselves" don't they?
9 posted on
11/03/2001 12:25:08 PM PST by
FOMTY
To: pitt
I freaking hate liberals. They believe free speech only applies to them. How in the hell was your e-mail harassing???
12 posted on
11/03/2001 12:28:06 PM PST by
j.cam
To: pitt
Sounds like a pretty reasonable reply to me. Is that your oriinal message at the top of the your post? Doesn't sound like a very convincing way to conduct an arggument - sounds more like an angry teenager lost for words and out of his depth. To answer these people you have to get smarter than that.
17 posted on
11/03/2001 12:38:57 PM PST by
Gimlet
To: pitt
Sounds like someone is trying to bully you. If the entirety of your e-mail message really was "The answer is simple: Your either with US or or With the Terrorists !!!! DON'T E-MAIL YOUR TERRORIST LOVING CRAP TO ME AGAIN," I cannot see how they would be able to establish that you engaged in "hate speech" from this, even with the typical expression-chilling campus speech codes in place on many campus. You did not threaten any one, or use a slur (I cannot imagine that terrorist-lover is a slur against a protected class, but perhaps it is by now.)
I would like to offer a piece of advice, however. It always helps, in order to counter the unwarranted perception held by academics that only inbred knuckle-dragging hicks are politically conservative, to utilize a spelling and grammar checker whenever you communicate with them. This is especially desirable when you are debating them. As it is, you have given the professor a wonderful writing sample illustrating how ill-mannered and poorly educated conservative students can be. For an example from the other side, please see Front Page Magazines spelling and grammar contest.
To: pitt
I would head to the student newspaper to expose the intimidation they are trying out on you. Expose these cockroaches to the light!
22 posted on
11/03/2001 12:43:49 PM PST by
dennisw
To: pitt
Charles-- How did you come into possession of the original email from this "womyn"? Did you intentionally subscribe to some discussion list to which this person posted, or did she simply spam every email address she could get her fingers on at the UofT? If it's the latter, you may well have a legal case against her, and I suggest you fight like hell. All those irrelevant CCs mean they're out to get you, and want to at the very least put a permanent mark on your student record.
I would suggest: a) Asking for legal help from any Freepers. b) I would suggest alerting members of the news media as well, such as Bill O'Reilly, Newsmax.com, etc.
23 posted on
11/03/2001 12:44:09 PM PST by
Timesink
To: pitt
It is your right as a citizen of this country to hold whatever beliefs you want; however, it is not your right to impose those beliefs on anyone else.You would think the left would drop that cliche already! Everyone knows they don't push their views on others!!
By the way, the correct title is Chairb*tch.
To: pitt
Precisely what Federal regulations is this "person" referring to? I am not aware of any Federal regulations that would impact your e-mail excepting the First Amendment.
Regards,
To: pitt
She could have just taken him off the mailing list. Special rights = American Revolution repealed.
36 posted on
11/03/2001 1:04:40 PM PST by
Havisham
To: pitt
If you get in trouble,
FIRE is your best defense.
37 posted on
11/03/2001 1:06:26 PM PST by
xm177e2
To: pitt
"Dr. Jamie Barlowe Chair, Dept. of Women's and Gender Studies University of Toledo Toledo, OH 43606"Dear Dr. Barlowe:
Blow it out your (obviously never-been-touched-by-a-male-of-the-species-and-probably-never-will-be) a**.
Sincerely,
Any Thinking American With a Semblance of a Brain
To: pitt
So she's a feminist, huh?
Isn't that cute . . . .
"Womens and Gender Studies" - one of those totally useless, totally parasitic parking places for lazy lefties to park themselves for tenure and a big pension.
To: pitt
She has been freeped.
43 posted on
11/03/2001 1:11:19 PM PST by
Havisham
To: pitt
Her response was wrong. Your message was not "hate speech" or anything else for which you could be punished. As you correctly point out, we have a right to express ourselves in this country, no matter how crude and simplistic our expression may be.
"Your [sic] either with US or With the Terrorists"? I am sure you realize there are many people, especially conservatives and libertarians of the sort that frequent Free Republic, who harbor both complete antipathy to the terrorists and a healthy skepticism and suspicion about our own government authorities and many of their policies, particularly interventionist foreign policies. The notion that someone is a traitor if unwilling to go along with the consensus American point of view is a dangerous one because it can be turned back against us.
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