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Greek allegiances tested
BBC ^ | 10/4/2001 | Helena Smith

Posted on 10/31/2001 1:13:21 PM PST by a_Turk

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I have been reading lots of slander here by Greeks, so I thought I'd counter them with this fine BBC article. Sorry, I feel sort of bad. God Bless America.
1 posted on 10/31/2001 1:13:21 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
Kind of makes one understand how the Crusaders could turn on the Byzantine.
2 posted on 10/31/2001 1:19:13 PM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: a_Turk
I wonder how these Greeks would feel if Usama blew 4000 of them up? What's their effing problem? What do they have against us?
3 posted on 10/31/2001 1:20:41 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: a_Turk
I'm not sure what's gotten into the Greeks.

I'm a little tired of all the Pope-bashing and America-bashing I'm hearing from them. I'm also tired of hearing about how the Greeks are a "Christian" country when Communism seems to completely dominate their political and social discourse.

The Greek left say their excuse is US support for the Colonels. The Greek "right" (such as it is) say their excuse is Cyprus or the NATO bombing.

In reality, they're angry because their country is a backward, impoverished hole which exists mainly as an appendage to the Greek Islands tourism industry. They're envious of America and Americans and envy makes people petty.

Perhaps they should look to their illustrious forebears and imitate their creative example, instead of idolizing Marx.

4 posted on 10/31/2001 1:22:14 PM PST by wideawake
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To: a_Turk
Like the man said - you're either with us or against us.
5 posted on 10/31/2001 1:24:18 PM PST by norton
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To: a_Turk
Kreskin prediction--American tourists soon to be skipping Greece for Turkey and its fine shores.
6 posted on 10/31/2001 1:25:04 PM PST by Shermy
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To: wideawake
They're envious of America and Americans and envy makes people petty.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, envy is the first emotion that motivates leftist "thought" before any other. After all how dare anyone have anything that someone else doesn't have (even if they've earned it)

BTW are you still a big Palestinian supporter. I wonder what their polls would say they think of us and Osama?

7 posted on 10/31/2001 1:26:55 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: arkfreepdom
It might. Of course, the best-kept secrets about the "Crusaders' attack" on Byzantium/Constantinople are:

(1) It was preceded by the massacre of all Latin Christians in the city (specifically a few thousand Venetians).

(2) It was preceded by the closure and desecration of all Latin churches in the city.

(3) The scummers who carried out the sack of the city were not actually Crusaders - they were a Flemish prince acting on his own, a German prince who was under excommunication from the Pope and a Greek prince who was attempting to regain his lost crown.

(4) The army which carried out the sacking was composed of both Westerners and Greek Christians.

The unforgivable atrocity was planned, funded and executed in large part by Greeks with Greek money and Greek soldiers. Modern-day Greeks conveniently leave out those details when whining about it.

8 posted on 10/31/2001 1:30:14 PM PST by wideawake
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How soon the Greeks forget. How soon.... As a Greek American, Im ashamed right now. After all the USA has done for Greece, from WWII to the Greek Revolution.... for them to spit on us like that is dispicable.
9 posted on 10/31/2001 1:35:34 PM PST by Kale
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To: liberalism=failure
I was never a "big Palestinian supporter" - I did make the point over and over again that the entire Palestinian population should not be penalized for the actions of the murderers and thugs among them who assault the Israelis.

My suggestion, on many threads, was that since Israel negotiated on the basis of "land for peace" that they should simply take back land piece by piece for each act of terror. No peace, no land - just as both sides had agreed.

But I did give the Palestinians the benefit of the doubt - saying they should not be presumed to be terrorists unless they were proven to be members of a terrorist organization.

I'll say now that they've forfeited my goodwill by dancing in the streets in the wake of the WTC atrocity. At this point, I could care less what happens to their miserable carcasses.

10 posted on 10/31/2001 1:36:57 PM PST by wideawake
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...With the demonstrators frequently shouting "down with Bush, the killer..."

Rhetorical question to these ass-breaths: "Who did President Bush kill?!?"
11 posted on 10/31/2001 1:37:16 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: a_Turk
We should send over George STEPHENOPOLOUS as our negotiator with the greeks. He probably won't mind when they ask him to roll over!
12 posted on 10/31/2001 1:38:46 PM PST by FUSSBALL
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" But the Greeks also cite America's support for the ruthless military regime that ruled them between 1967 and 1974 as the root cause of their reaction. "

Fine, I blame the greeks for supporting the traitor Clinton, who ruled us from 1992 to 2000. Let's laugh at their civilian dead and burn their flags at NFL games.

13 posted on 10/31/2001 1:39:02 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Kale
Yes indeed!
14 posted on 10/31/2001 1:39:04 PM PST by Curly007
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To: Kale
Greek Americans have been incredibly outspoken and patriotic in the wake of the WTC, just as they were before September 11.

As a German-American who watched the various "peace rallies" happening in Germany I couldn't help but feel that all the worthwhile Europeans with backbones emigrated to the US years ago - leaving the dregs behind in the mother countries.

15 posted on 10/31/2001 1:39:34 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
It might. Of course, the best-kept secrets about the "Crusaders' attack" on Byzantium/Constantinople are:

You obsviously know your history. And Dare I say if their grievance goes back that far they sure must be a petty bunch of little buggers.

And BTW your slamming the greeks for not liking us I applaud. But as I seem to recall you were a supporter of the Palestinians on another thread. And dare I say, I bet they have an even lower opinion of us than the Greeks do. Yet that didn't seem to bother you too much. And I'm wondering just why that is?

I hope you'll be kind enough to explain.

16 posted on 10/31/2001 1:41:16 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Cobra64
Because the President is a staunch supporter of capital punishment it is very fashionable to refer to him as a "murderer" or "killer" in Europe.

Of course, it's also fashionable to call Mumia Abu Jamal a "political prisoner" in Europe as well.

17 posted on 10/31/2001 1:41:24 PM PST by wideawake
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To: anapikoros
BUMP
18 posted on 10/31/2001 1:44:33 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: wideawake
I'll say now that they've forfeited my goodwill by dancing in the streets in the wake of the WTC atrocity. At this point, I could care less what happens to their miserable carcasses.

YOu have my sincerist apologies for misunderstanding you. And I agree totally. Best regards. FreeP on.

19 posted on 10/31/2001 1:44:40 PM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: wideawake
You HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. Every self-motivated, smart, hard-worker, left Greece LONG AGO for America. Ive seen it as a country and in my own family. And on top of that, they want US to send them OUR hard earned money, made in America so that they can do nothing but sleep all day or smoke cigaretes at the coffee house.
20 posted on 10/31/2001 1:45:16 PM PST by Kale
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