Hijackers Were From Wealthy Saudi Families

The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | 10-28-2001

[ikanakattara]

Salafism is the polite name for wahhabism. The Islamofascists don't like the term "wahhabi" because they think it "sounds bad." It's still jihadism by any other name.

[witnesstothefall]

Interesting. I strongly believe the Saudis had advance knowledge of, if not direct involvement in, the events of September 11. On September 10, an article appeared in the Saudi state-sponsored newspaper Al-Riyadh, with the following:

Excerpt:

The state-guided Saudi press Monday slammed the administration of President George W. Bush for failing to take action to stop Israeli attacks against the Palestinians.

"Washington does not appear to be sufficiently concerned by the deteriorating situation, which suggests that it is blessing Israel's increasingly aggressive behavior," Al-Jazeera said in an editorial.

The paper said Washington's silence was no longer acceptable, "unless (the approves of the collective killings of the Palestinians."

Al-Riyadh warned the United States and the West in general of the consequences of their support of the "Zionists."

"America and the West provide material, political and military support to the Zionists, because (they believe) there is no threat to their interests in the Arab world," it said in a front-page editorial.

Al-Riyadh, which like other Saudi papers reflects the official view, implicitly called on Arab countries to take retaliatory measures against the United States, which has huge interests in the region, especially in the Gulf states.

"Latent Arab forces that are observing the situation" might react in an unpredictable way if Arab inaction persists at the official level, the daily warned, alluding to Islamist groups. -snip

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[McGavin999]

Funny, the idle rich kids in Saudi Arabia become Islamic Fundimentalist who hate their own country and terrorize the rest of the world, and the idle rich kids in America become Marxist econuts who terrorize the world and become violent protestors at any international meeting. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm.

[Zviadist]

The Taliban are "poor Afghani peasants" like the Nazis were simple cuckoo-clock makers.

And the tens of thousands of villagers we are turning into refugees? And those civilians who suddenly find their water supply has been bombed? And those villages we "accidentally" bombed to dust? Did these people CHOOSE their government? Or did the United States of America actually give money and weapons to CREATE and support the Taliban? Oh, but you don't read that much, do you?

[Kay Soze]

It's the Sauids that attacked us-

Osma is Saudi, Sauidi's would NOT let us interview the "alleged ' Kohbar towers bombers, The Saudis refuse to freeze the Al Qeda assests, 14 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis.

Saudis, Saudis, Saudis, Saudis, Saudis, Saudis

Unfortunately we have Oilmen running our country too!

Cheney ran Haliburtun services which is a huge service provider for drilling operations in...(you guesed it) Sauid Arabia!

Saudis, Saudis, Saudis, Saudis, Saudis, Saudis

Our number two priorty after targeting Afghanistan, Sauidi Arabia and Iraq is to develop alternatives to fossil fuels.

Do you think oilmen on either side will ever allow this?

[Economist_MA]

Why don't you suggest a feasible alternative for getting Osama BL and the other members of his organization out of Afghanistan, and for destroying the training camps? I see you on every thread making negative statements about the current campaign. I think it's time that you put up something more productive, otherwise you are just a disruptor.

[mlibertarianj]

Not unusual, when you consider, that Carlos the Jackal, came from a wealthy Venezualan(sp) family. Many of the notorious Red Army/Red Brigade groups that terroized Europe in the 70's and 80's were upper class kids. Last but not least Fidel Castro, was a scion of a wealthy landowner and Che Guevara came from a well off family too. Idle hands are a devil's tool, when you deal with some of these trust fund kids.

[dodger]

'We're run by Saudi sympathizing oilmen.' Kay Soze ... member since September 30th, 2001.

Yeah, right.

[Ada Coddington]

So why are we bombing the hell out of poor Afghani peasants? Oh yeah, I forgot: it's because we are so good.

Simply taking advantage of the opportunity offered. You know, like Clinton after OKC.

[Ada Coddington]

As usual, its the foreigners who publish this stuff instead of our own media.

[aristeides]

Somebody asked that question here on FR a week or so ago. Apparently the names can't be listed until the next of kin are notified. People alleged that relatives of the hijackers could not be found. However, to judge by this story, the hijackers' families have been found.

[aristeides]

I think I'd believe a Brit paper sooner than most American organs. Seems we've been deceived, yet again.

[Fred Mertz]

I remember that Wallaby article. It convinced me that initial reports of a number of alleged Saudi hijackers was incorrect because of identity theft.

I/we have to be careful these days.

[Zviadist]

I think it's time that you put up something more productive, otherwise you are just a disruptor.

Sorry, that is not my job. I can criticize what I see as ill-advised policy all I want. I am forced to pay for it and I can damn well criticize it.

[shrinkermd]

IMHO the problem here is a misunderstanding of the nature of Islam. We have been told we are at war with terrorists. Much of Islam believes we are at war with Islam. Today 10,000 Pakistanis are trying to join the Taliban. How can this be? The answer is partially answered by Paul Johnson (Historian and Journalist and author of Modern Times) in a National Review Online editorial done 15 October 2001.

"Islam is an imperialist religion, more so than Christianity and in contrast to Judaism. The Koran, Sura 5, verse 85, describes the enivitable enmity between Moslems and non-Moslems: 'Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilth thou find Jews and Pagans." Sura 9, verse 5 adds: 'Then fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them and lie in wait for them in every strategem of war.' Then nations, however mighty,the Koran insists must be fought until they embrace Islam."

Paul Johnson believes, as do I, you cannot explain this away of soften it by modern theological explanations. Christianity has updated itself through the Reformation and the Counter-Reformation, but Islam has not. Islam is a religion of the dark ages and the seventh century. The "true believers" in this theology who are the Taliban and their sympathizers are in the hundreds of millions.

This being said, it is also true the Sunni Moslems are apparently more moderate than the Shia Moslems and both are more moderate as you go up the educational ladder. Notwithstanding this caveat, it is clear that millions of Moslems don't just hate us out of envy or fear but out of the very nature of their religious convictions.

[blam]

"Notwithstanding this caveat, it is clear that millions of Moslems don't just hate us out of envy or fear but out of the very nature of their religious convictions."

I believe you are correct.

[Economist_MA]

I am forced to pay for it and I can damn well criticize it.

Sure you can, it's a free country. By the same token, I won't take you serious.