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This one will go over like a lead balloon with the ig'nernt Soccer Boobettes and their Lil' Garthettes. [GRIN] But a remnant of Americans will "get it". This is for that remnant.
1 posted on 10/08/2001 4:54:05 PM PDT by LadyJD
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To: LadyJD
It is tragic, having had to defend the US against similar attacks from left-wingers in my country, to read this stuff from (I presume) a US citizen. If you think you can do better on foreign policy, stand for government. As far as I can see, the US is focussed on maintaining a balance between world peace and human rights. When there are war-like people in the world, on cannot have peace without getting rid of them; hence one cannot have peace without war.

It is easy for a small country such as NZ to moan about how arrogant the US is (we get peeved because on holiday in the US we get asked what part of Europe NZ is in) but the simple fact is - we are jealous of your prosperity. Really we should be grateful that we do not have as much responsibility. If the US stepped out of world relations, the rest of the world would still moan.

lose - lose. Bummer.

37 posted on 10/08/2001 5:47:26 PM PDT by Kiwigal
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To: LadyJD
We already know why. We were attacked by terrorists.
39 posted on 10/08/2001 5:52:23 PM PDT by freekitty
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Let's see who else is at fault.

It's your fault you got raped because you wore suggestive clothing.

It's your fault you were hurt in a car wreck because you didn't see the drunk coming toward you would probably make a right turn in front of you.

It's your own fault for working in the US and sending money home to your poor family: you should have dropped out of high school and sat around spouting propaganda about how wicked America is, not immigrating here and working for a living. (several thousand immigrants worked in the NY Trade towers)

It's your own fault for opposing the Russian invasion of Afghanistan,

it's your own fault for opposing Sadam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait, and stopping him before he invaded Saudi Arabia.

It's your own fault that Abraham threw out his olderst son Ishmael, and favored his son Isaac

It's your own fault that Charles Martel opposed the Arab invasion at Tours.

it's your own fault that the League of Nations mandated that Balfour Mandate in 1919.,

It's our own fault that (according to the Globe) Ben Laden's sexual apparatus was so puny that a western girl made fun of him, thereby making him hate all Europeans

It's your fault that we didn't nuke Afghanistan instead of sending a one million dollar missle into Ben Laden's ten dollar tent, and merely doing a sigmoidoscopic explosion on his camel

It's our own fault for allowing the British and French to decolonize these pest holds, and allowing these countries to be run by two bit dictators that live high on the hog and allow their own people to live in the dirt.

Did I forget anything?

41 posted on 10/08/2001 5:57:18 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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Instead, the main cause of the attacks was America's own interventionist, imperialistic, inter-meddling foreign policy -

Such as our meddling in foreign affairs that saved Europe and the world from Hilter,Mussolini and Japan...that saved the Kuwaiti people from Saddam.....that saved Muslim peoples in Bosnia..in Kosovo....that's provided more food and humanitarian aid to Afghanistan's poverty-stricken population than any other country on earth....just as it has done in Somalia and Ethiopia while their own Gov'ts did nothing to help their own people......

This is only part of the list that clearly establishes America as the most benevolent, humanitarian and indeed good nation this world has ever seen.

The author of this article is clearly an example of the inverted mentality and darkened heart of those who defend evil while they show contempt for good.
Pathetic.

42 posted on 10/08/2001 6:01:40 PM PDT by Jorge
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Accordingly, the libertarian reformer argues that the United States should dismantle its foreign bases, withdraw its troops from foreign soil, stop its incessant and dangerous political meddling, and abolish the CIA. [] In short, the US government should withdraw totally to within its own borders and maintain a policy of strict political "isolation" or neutrality everywhere.

But the practical obstacles confronting our libertarian reformer appear quite massive, and are indeed, well nigh insurmountable.

I'll say. Starting with the U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 2, 1&2, and Article VI, 2. After that, of course, our "libertarian reformer," after having dismantled our military because it is too "large," will have to deal with the small "obstacle" of the barbarians at the gate.

But as an aside, I can't see how a libertarian would have a problem with that (in principle).

43 posted on 10/08/2001 6:01:53 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Instead, the main cause of the attacks was America's own interventionist, imperialistic, inter-meddling foreign policy ...

This means that it is our own globalist foreign policy -and not any foreign people or organization- which constitutes the greatest threat in the world today to the lives and freedoms of the American people.

Agreed.

IMO, you can reduce this policy down to just three words:

New World Order.

44 posted on 10/08/2001 6:04:39 PM PDT by Reardon Metal
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You want to know how the author could dare say such a thing when so many innocent Americans have just lost their lives, during an attack on American soil...

Unbridled hubris, the hallmark of the educrat liberal elitist Marxist American-hating professors...

One wonders, why you would post such a disgusting piece, which (considering a bloody history professor wrote it, is remarkably inaccurate, with regard to historical precedents leading up to this conflict...).

Perhaps, before posting this sort of excretia, you would do a little more research. Like finding out the FACTS...?

Try THIS.

48 posted on 10/08/2001 6:13:01 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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In fact, the truly patriotic American will, first of all, do his history homework, and reflect long and hard on the fact that, empirically, taking the twentieth century as a whole, the single most warlike, most interventionist, most imperialistic government in the world has been the United States.

A lie. And a pathetic lie at that. Just because you WANT to characterize American foreign relations as "imperialism" doesn't make it so. Empirically, that is.

We were the same sort of "interventionist" as a cop in a bad neighborhood going after muggers, theives and murderers. If you oppose that sort of "interventionism," you're not welcome in my neighborhood.

Incidentally, advocating the destruction of the United States is neither conservative, nor patriotic.

49 posted on 10/08/2001 6:17:33 PM PDT by Snuffington
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This piece is a mediocre stab at counter-propaganda. By implying that patriotism belongs to liberals -- in clear defiance of experience -- and that only soccer bimbos or bohunk wannabes could support this war, this writer and you, his handmaiden, try to win the argument by redefining the terms.

One of the hallmarks of conservatism is its belief that America, with all her faults, is still the greatest nation on earth, and that it got that way not through "imperialism," "expansionism," "hegemony" or any of the other cliches used to denigrate its achievments. America got where it is by hard work, a sound ethic, and a willingness to stand together when the times called for unity.

None of that ethos is reflected in this polemic. This is "Blame America First" sugar-coated to attract the vacuous crowd. Nice try, but no sale.

51 posted on 10/08/2001 6:22:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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Didn't you get the memo from Washington? "Nationalism" has replaced "Patriotism," hence, you may exercise your right of free speech to criticize your government only in peacetime. Remember, loose lips sink ships, long manes down planes, itchy buns jam guns, and so on. And to bring up an issue like secession at a time like this? Tsk, tsk, tsk. At least wait until we have finished bombing Afghanistan from the Mesolithic Stone Age back to the Paleolithic Stone Age before you start debating a subject like imperialism.
54 posted on 10/08/2001 6:29:31 PM PDT by sheltonmac
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After a lot of sober reflection Ive realized that indeed it was all my fault ...Therefor to spare you and others any more pain I am moving to the Bahamas with all the money...write me ,ok?
56 posted on 10/08/2001 6:31:59 PM PDT by woofie
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Thank you for this post.
57 posted on 10/08/2001 6:38:20 PM PDT by Anochka
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God if we're that horrible sounds like we need to let them take out another couple of skyscrapers. Spake me mommy for I've been bad.....sarcasm/off
59 posted on 10/08/2001 6:45:48 PM PDT by is_is
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Yeah, we "get it". Thanks.

Trollin', trollin', trollin'

61 posted on 10/08/2001 7:29:42 PM PDT by Deb
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So much cheese, so little time.

I like cheese!

63 posted on 10/08/2001 7:36:43 PM PDT by LibKill
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When I got to the part about secesionism one thing became clear. This is a CLAN posting, but without most of the Black and Jew references. I have visited a few Clan sites. They all advocate secession of the south or in particular just Virginia or Sorth Carolina. Tom Metzger is a proponent of this.

This is little more than a disguised attempt to con people into unknowingly supporting a KKK position.

68 posted on 10/08/2001 8:04:38 PM PDT by america76
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But a remnant of Americans will "get it". This is for that remnant.

Isn't that the same REMNANT we're trying to get rid of, the ignorant 8 percenters?

69 posted on 10/08/2001 8:06:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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What stupid nonsense. You should be ashamed of yourself for wasting bandwidth.
72 posted on 10/08/2001 8:20:10 PM PDT by pgkdan
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I have a better idea. One that will assure peace.

1) Research a really nice bio-warfare agent. Perhaps an enhanced, resistent version of smallpox.

2) Come up with an effective vaccine for same.

3) Innoculate the US population, along with the desireables amongst our allies and those worthwhile members of non-allies that we regard as politically reliable.

4) Release the bugs.

5) Enjoy the show!

73 posted on 10/08/2001 8:28:40 PM PDT by neutrino
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Bump for the article.

As you can see propaganda has done it's job well.

78 posted on 10/08/2001 8:48:57 PM PDT by Aerial
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