Posted on 10/08/2001 4:54:05 PM PDT by LadyJD
**I pledge allegiance to Boeing, and ADM, and Proctor and Gamble, --and to the cartel for which they stand, --massive juggernaut, --unrepentant, dispensing justice to those who can pay for it and to those who they favor. --The Sheeple's Pledge**
He's dead wrong on this one. At any given time, we were/are the least imperial, most isolated nation. He is confusing most victorious against imperialism as being imperialistic. French and British colonies in Asia, Africa and the Middle East were abandoned in the 20th century and thugs rushed to fill the void. We inevitably end up fighting the imperialists attempting to fill these vacuums such as Russia, Japan, Germany, Vietnam, Somalia, Palestine, etc.
We are the single lone victor that stopped imperialism and our enemies have mostly been vanquished. we will and should continue to fight the enemies of freedom. People like Osama bin Laden (and Hitler and Hirohito and Mao tse Tung and Stalin) don't stop their imperialism without the use of force. There is no compromise or surrender. Osama and his imperialist thugs must be stopped. Already they have cells in many countries.
Israel has it right. Either fight them or be pushed into the sea. I choose to fight them.
You've already got the anti-semitism down. Goose stepping should come natural.
March 25, 1997
From Stephen Jones' petition for a writ of mandamus to Federal Judge Richard P. Matsch on behalf of Timothy James McVeigh that he should issue more discovery orders for material to be turned over:
An official in the Saudi Arabian Intelligence Service reported < reference 17> on April 19, 1995, and possibly earlier, that Iraq had hired seven Pakistani mercenaries, all veterans of the Afghanistan War, to bomb targets in the United States, one of which was the Alfred P. Murrah Building. D.E. 2191 at 3 (Exhibit "A").
A former Chief of Counterterrorism Operations for the Central Intelligence Agency provided this information to the United States government and described his source as "responsible for developing intelligence to help prevent the (Saudi) Royal Family from becoming victims of a terrorist attack." Id.>>>
Footnote 17: Significant portions of this material are in the public record either through media account or court proceedings. ...... The Saudi Arabian official reported that the bombing of the Murrah Building was sponsored by the Iraqi Special Services, who "contracted" the mission to seven (7) former Afghani freedom fighters currently living in Pakistan. The official also advised that the identity of the true sponsor of the bombing was concealed from the Pakistanis and the Afghan mercenaries may not have knowledge of Iraqi involvement or sponsorship. This is not unusual..... Despite repeated requests, the defense has been provided the sum total of three pages of information concerning this aspect of the case. See D.E. 2191 Exhibit "A."
The defense requested assistance from the United States State Department, via letter to the Secretary of State, to assist in defense investigation and travel to Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has very stringent entry requirements and the defense was unable to facilitate investigation there. The State Department declined politely to assist the defense's travel to Saudi Arabia and attempt to interview the Saudi Arabian official. However, the State Department sent a list of law firms practicing in Saudi Arabia to the defense; ...... the State Department had no difficulty in facilitating entry into Saudi Arabia of American FBI agents traveling there to investigate the death of Americans in Saudi Arabia.
March 30 1997 Electronic Telegraph Issue 674
ABRAHAM LINCOLN -- AMERICA'S WORST PRESIDENTOn President's Day, your paper reported the results of a survey of historians concerning which U.S. presidents possessed the highest leadership qualities. These gentlemen awarded Abraham Lincoln the number one spot.
I would respectfully differ with these gentlemen however, and point out, while doing so, that human historical judgments reflect the intelligence and moral character of the judges as much as they report the deeds and words of those who are judged.
If we want to learn the truth about Lincoln, and not merely accept the idealized nonsense that we are force-fed in the public schools, for example, we might turn to a genuinely scholarly work like Edgar Lee Masters' Lincoln The Man.
Masters reveals how Lincoln was essentially an unprincipled opportunist who, for example, as President, allowed powerful Northern industialists to determine policy decisions, stumbled onto the slavery issue and used it to consolidate his power, and cynically used religious rhetoric, although not religious himself, to advance his agenda. Also, Lincoln's contempt and disregard for the constraints endemic to constitutional government were resoundingly demonstrated during his Administration. The list of Lincoln's weighty and criminal offenses against the Constitution and the American people is very long, and includes the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus, the unlawful creation of a state (West Virginia) out of an existing state (Virginia), the illegally and immorally conducted emancipation of slaves, the violent suppression of duly authorized state governments North and South, and the waging of total war against the civilian population of the South.
Abraham Lincoln was not America's greatest president, but he has been America's greatest tyrant -- thus far.
Winston L. McCuen, Ph.D.
Greenville, SC
So, does this guy have a problem with the emancipation of slaves?
He sure doesn't seem to be concerned about the immorality of owning slaves nor the UNCONSTITUTIONALITY of owning human beings.
Please don't confuse the JBTs on this forum with this type of material. In their case it simply does not compute. These products of the socialist-Prussian-Unitarian schools are dumber than posts but they have been taught to speak and write (mostly in grunts and bleats).
I must say however, that the discerning, those able to connect the dots, appreciate the post you made at 95.
"He who will not reason, is a bigot;
he who cannot, is a fool;
and he who dares not, is a slave." --Lord Byron
Do some research. I recommend that you get a copy of When in the Course of Human Events as soon as you can since I assume that you are a voter.
Here are some quotes for you to chew on if you truly desire to put your Tyrant-worship into perspective. Pay particular attention to the Calhoun quote of 1831:
“Today’s tyranny began with Lincoln. He voided Self-Determination and the Constitution and threw thousands of Northerners into prison without trial when they objected to his usurpation OR WERE EVEN SUSPECTED OF BEING AGAINST HIS TYRANNY! He directly caused the deaths of tens of thousands of prisoners, Northern and Southern, by starvation and disease. The blood of 600,000 soldiers of the North and South are on his hands. The slavery of the empire which binds us today owes its greatest debt to him.” --FreeReb
**“Every clause of Jefferson’s tremendous indictment of King George in 1776 was true of Lincoln in 1861-1865.” ---John Gardiner Tyler in THE CONFEDERATE CATECHISM, Section 10, pg. 5.**
"Although the Confederacy as an organization may have ceased to exist, the fundamental principles, the eternal truths, uttered when our colonies in 1776 declared their independence, on which the Confederation of 1781 and the Union of 1788 were formed, and which animated and guided the Confederacy of 1861, yet live, and in God’s appointed time and place, will prevail." –-Jefferson Davis
**** "Keep steady in the view of the great principles for which you contend. The safety of your homes and the lives of all you hold dear depend upon your courage and exertions. Let each man resolve to be victorious, and that the right of self government, liberty and peace shall find him a defender." ---General Robert E. Lee to his men, 1861****
**”I saw in States' Rights the only availing check upon the absolutism of the sovereign will, and secession filled me with hope, not as the destruction but as the redemption of Democracy . . . I deemed that you [i.e., Lee] were fighting the battles of our liberty, our progress, and our civilization; and I mourn for the stake which was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo.” –Lord Acton to General Lee**
*****Brigadier General STATES RIGHTS GIST (CSA) was a nephew of that gallant Marylander, General Mordecai Gist, who distinguished himself in the American Revolution at the battle of Camden 1780, and at the Combahee 1782, and subsequently resided at Charleston, SC. At his death leaving two sons who bore the names of INDEPENDENT and STATES.--FreeReb*****
****”Stripped of all its covering, the naked question is, whether ours is a federal or consolidated government; a constitutional or absolute one; a government resting solidly on the basis of the sovereignty of the States, or on the unrestrained will of a majority; a form of government, as in all other unlimited ones, in which injustice, violence, and force must ultimately prevail."-–Calhoun, 1831
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.--Thomas Jefferson
"Look it's pretty simple. You have San Francisco forcing its people to pay for sex-change operations; you have Vermont sanctioning same-sex marriages; you have Oregon pushing euthanasia ... the people of Mississippi are not going to accept that. The Confederacy stands for a people's right to determine what sort of society, what sort of culture they want to build."—Anonymous Mississippian
***** During the early 1900's, many members of the United Confederate Veterans (UCV) advocated awarding former slaves rural acreage and a home. There was hope that justice could be given those slaves that were once promised "forty acres and a mule" but never received any. In the 1913 Confederate Veteran magazine published by the UCV, it was printed that this plan "If not Democratic, it is [the] Confederate" thing to do. There was much gratitude toward former slaves, which "thousands were loyal, to the last degree", now living with total poverty in the big cities. Unfortunately, their proposal fell on deaf ears on Capitol Hill. --http://www.37thtexas.org/html/BlkHist.html
"The Gettysburg speech was at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history... the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous. But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination -- that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE UNTRUE. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves." -- H.L. Mencken
"I love the Union and the Constitution, but I would rather leave the Union with the Constitution than remain in the Union without it.'' -–Jefferson Davis
****Their vision, in a sentence, is a nipple ring on every chest, a homosexual on every student body council, a Satanist at every religious gathering and an imperial militia to enforce it all. --Dorian Ian Atherton on the NWO Globalists ****
Any more questions Spanky??
Oink oink.
The Price of Free Corn
(The Wild and Free Pigs of the Okefenokee Swamp)
Some years ago, about 1900, an old trapper from North Dakota hitched up some horses to his Studebaker wagon, packed a few possessions -- especially his traps -- and drove south. Several weeks later he stopped in a small town just north of the Okefenokee Swamp in Georgia.
It was a Saturday morning -- a lazy day -- when he walked into the general store. Sitting around the pot-bellied stove were seven or eight of the town's local citizens.
The traveler spoke. "Gentlemen, could you direct me to the Okefenokee Swamp?"
Some of the oldtimers looked at him like he was crazy. "You must be a stranger in these parts," they said.
"I am. I'm from North Dakota," said the stranger. "In the Okefenokee Swamp are thousands of wild hogs." one old man explained. "A man who goes into the swamp by himself asks to die!" He lifted up his leg. "I lost half my leg here, to the pigs of the swamp."
Another old fellow said, "Look at the cuts on me; look at my arm bit off! Those pigs have been free since the Revolution, eating snakes and rooting out roots and fending for themselves for over a hundred years. They're wild and they're dangerous. You can't trap them. No man dare go into the swamp by himself." Every man nodded his head in agreement.
The old trapper said, "Thank you so much for the warning. Now could you direct me to the swamp?" They said, "Well, yeah, it's due south -- straight down the road." But they begged the stranger not to go, because they knew he'd meet a terrible fate.
He said, "Sell me ten sacks of corn, and help me load it in the wagon." And they did. Then the old trapper bid them farewell and drove on down the road. The townsfolk thought they'd never see him again. Two weeks later the man came back. He pulled up to the general store, got down off the wagon, walked in and bought ten more sacks of corn. After loading it up he went back down the road toward the swamp.
Two weeks later he returned and again bought ten sacks of corn. This went on for a month. And then two months, and three. Every week or two the old trapper would come into town on a Saturday morning, load up ten sacks of corn, and drive off south into the swamp.
The stranger soon became a legend in the little village and the subject of much speculation. People wondered what kind of devil had possessed this man, that he could go into the Okefenokee by himself and not be consumed by the wild and free hogs.
One morning the man came into town as usual. Everyone thought he wanted more corn. He got off the wagon and went into the store where the usual group of men were gathered around the stove. He took off his gloves.
"Gentlemen," he said, "I need to hire about ten or fifteen wagons. I need twenty or thirty men. I have six thousand hogs out in the swamp, penned up, and they're all hungry. I've got to get them to market right away."
"You've WHAT in the swamp?" asked the storekeeper, incredulously. "I have six thousand hogs penned up. They haven't eaten for two or three days, and they'll starve if I don't get back there to feed and take care of t
hem." One of the oldtimers said, "You mean you've captured the wild hogs of the Okefenokee?"
"That's right."
"How did you do that? What did you do?" the men urged, breathlessly.
One of them exclaimed, "But I lost my arm!"
"I lost my brother!" cried another.
"I lost my leg to those wild boars!" chimed a third.
The trapper said, "Well, the first week I went in there they were wild all right. They hid in the undergrowth and wouldn't come out. I dared not get off the wagon. So I spread corn along behind the wagon. Every day I'd spread a sack of corn. The old pigs would have nothing to do with it."
"But the younger pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn than it was to root out roots and catch snakes. So the very young began to eat the corn first. I did this every day. Pretty soon, even the old pigs decided that it was easier to eat free corn. After all, they were all free; they were not penned up. They could run off in any direction they wanted at any time."
"The next thing was to get them used to eating in the same place all the time. So I selected a clearing, and I started putting the corn in the clearing. At first they wouldn't come to the clearing. It was too far. It was too open. It was a nuisance to them."
"But the very young decided that it was easier to take the corn in the clearing than it was to root out roots and catch their own snakes. And not long thereafter, the older pigs also decided that it was easier to come to the clearing every day."
"And so the pigs learned to come to the clearing every day to get their free corn. They could still subsidize their diet with roots and snakes and whatever else they wanted. After all, they were all free. They could run in any direction at any time. There were no bounds upon them."
"The next step was to get them used to fence posts. So I put fence posts all the way around the clearing. I put them in the underbrush so that they wouldn't get suspicious or upset. After all, they were just sticks sticking up out of the ground, like the trees and the brush. The corn was there every day. It was easy to walk in between the posts, get the corn, and walk back out."
"This went on for a week or two. Shortly they became very used to walking into the clearing, getting the free corn, and walking back out through the fence posts."
"The next step was to put one rail down at the bottom. I also left a few openings, so that the older, fatter pigs could walk through the openings and the younger pigs could easily jump over just one rail. After all, it was no real threat to their freedom or independence. They could always jump over the rail and flee in any direction at any time."
"Now I decided that I wouldn't feed them every day. I began to feed them every other day. On the days I didn't feed them the pigs still gathered in the clearing. They squealed, and they grunted, and they begged and pleaded with me to feed them. But I only fed them every other day. And I put a second rail around the posts."
"Now the pigs became more and more desperate for food. Because now they were no longer used to going out and digging their own roots and finding their own food. They now needed me. They needed my corn every other day. So I trained them that I would feed them every day if they came in through a gate. And I put up a third rail around the fence. But it was still no great threat to their freedom, because there were several gates and they could run in and out at will."
"Finally I put up the fourth rail. Then I closed all the gates but one, and I fed them very, very well. Yesterday I closed the last gate. And today I need you to help me take these pigs to market."
-- end of story --
The price of free corn The allegory of the pigs has a serious moral lesson. This story is about federal money being used to bait, trap and enslave a once free and independent people.
Federal welfare, in its myriad forms, has reduced not only individuals to A state of dependency. State and local governments are also on the fast Track to elimination, due to their functions being subverted by the command and control structures of federal "revenue sharing" programs. Please copy this flyer and send it to all your state and local elected leaders and other concerned citizens. Tell them: "Just say NO to federal corn."
The bacon you save may be your own.
Frank Redmond
Fredericksburg, VA
Now run along;
Papa Sow the Harlot
is a' calling you.
Neither are you.
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