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God's Invincible Purpose God Vindicated His Righteousness in the Death of Christ
Desiring God Ministries ^ | March 1992 sermon | John Piper

Posted on 10/05/2001 7:17:54 AM PDT by sola gracia

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To: RnMomof7
My prayers are with you.
41 posted on 10/06/2001 9:10:02 AM PDT by winslow
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To: XeniaSt

Romans is such a blessing.

I agree on Romans. It's the best. I like Missler, too. But, I like David Hocking even better than Missler. You should listen to him on the following.


42 posted on 10/06/2001 9:51:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: XeniaSt

Romans is such a blessing.

Oh, by the way -- if you want to hear some of the Romans series on the Internet, the bulk of it is on this page of David Hocking's Radio Programs.

That will give you an idea about his teaching.

43 posted on 10/06/2001 9:57:40 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: winslow
Thank you for your prayers guys..Baby Christopher was born 30 minutes ago ..he looks well..mom is exausted but very happy after 24 hrs+ labor..I now pray that he be a Christ bearer
44 posted on 10/06/2001 10:14:29 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
God bless you and your family.
45 posted on 10/06/2001 10:25:21 AM PDT by nettlsome
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To: RnMomof7
Boil that down to the most basic problem the death of Christ is meant to solve. God put Christ forward (he sent him to die) in order to demonstrate his righteousness (or justice). The problem that needed solving was that God, for some reason seemed to be unrighteous, and wanted to vindicate himself and clear his name.

But what created that problem? Why did God face the problem of needing to give a public vindication of his righteousness? The answer is in the last phrase of verse 25: "on account of passing over sins done beforehand."

Now what does that mean? It means that for centuries God had been doing what Psalm 103:10 says, "He does not deal with us according to our sins or requite us according to our iniquities." He just passes over them. He does not punish them.

This is a new thought to me..I have always thought of the cross as a sign of God's Mercy and Grace,the ultimate act of love for sinful man..not as an act to vindicate His name.

It was most certianly both...

To elaborate this thought:

In the OT, sins were "atoned for," (cf. Lev 1:4 and many others.) The Hebrew word translated "atonement" in the AV is kaphar, which literally means "covering." Sins in the OT were covered, not expiated. "For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins" (Hebrews 10:4). Not until the propitiatory death of Christ were sins irrevocably once and for all put away.

Thus, it was the death of Christ that indeed vindicated the Father's salvation of the Old Testament saints. They trusted in God's as-yet-future provison of salvation (cf. Rom. 4). Thus, God is demonstrated to be righteous as both the "just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus" (Romans 3:26) as well as the OT saint.

46 posted on 10/06/2001 10:35:25 AM PDT by jude24
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Thus, it was the death of Christ that indeed vindicated the Father's salvation of the Old Testament saints. They trusted in God's as-yet-future provison of salvation (cf. Rom. 4). Thus, God is demonstrated to be righteous as both the "just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus" (Romans 3:26) as well as the OT saint.

jude the following quote seems to indicate more than a vindication of the salvation of the OT Saints through the ritual sacrifices ..

But what created that problem? Why did God face the problem of needing to give a public vindication of his righteousness? The answer is in the last phrase of verse 25: "on account of passing over sins done beforehand."

This seems to indicate that satan acccused God of not being just and "looking the other way" while insufficent sacrifices were offered for the sins of man. God could no longer "look the other way"..Only offering up Himself could pay the price for our sin.

47 posted on 10/06/2001 5:11:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dataman
I find it hard to believe that any God would be in favor of you violating the rights of all Americans in favor of your own zealous goals.
48 posted on 10/08/2001 6:30:55 AM PDT by JBS
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To: *Calvin
BTTL
49 posted on 12/29/2001 12:06:00 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: sola gracia
This is a Holy week bump for a great article .

50 posted on 04/02/2004 3:42:55 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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To: RnMomof7
THANKS!!! I needed that once again. What a gracious gift! What a humble example! What a spledid fulfillment of Scripture!!
51 posted on 04/03/2004 7:20:46 PM PST by sola gracia (a sinner saved by God's Sovereign Grace)
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To: sola gracia
Hope all is well friend.
52 posted on 04/03/2004 7:38:23 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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