Posted on 09/28/2001 11:19:47 AM PDT by Magician
Given the nature of your posts, you might better suggest that we 'Live in Constant Amusement'...
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I just don't see the point in creating a sovereign state for the benefit of Yasser Arafat. The Jordanians are mostly Palestinians, and Jordan contains most of the orignal British Mandate for Palestine. And the Jordanian government is stable and responsible.
A tiny Palestinian state that can't support itself and is full of terrorists not the solution.
One must fill out an application, do an interview, and lots of other things to become a federal employee. One's affilitation with the federal government - and Federal Express - can be objectively verified.
But what must one do to become a Christian? What disqualifies one from remaining a Christian? I am not aware of any one rite of initiation (or excommunication) that is universally accepted by all denominations. Most people tend to avoid the question, for it leads to troublesome questions - for example, are Mormons really Christians? (I emphasize - I am NOT trying to link LDS to CI. But the question "are Mormons Christians?" is often asked - I even recall a thoughtful and even-handed 3-part series on the subject that was aired by the Salt Lake City Fox affiliate around 1995-96).
My point was that shunning and ostacizing those who adhere to CI is an effective and appropriate way to deal with them. It requires making a judgment - that certain beliefs are beyong the pale of the community. Doing so is not always as easy as you may think - you may want to read about that here.
"By the way, your posts were neither ‘shocking’ nor ‘provoking’ to anyone familiar with the subject matter: your self-important posturing is therefore totally unwarranted…"
By all means, share with us your knowledge of the subject matter.
Not at all. I feel you miss an essential point - one which you seem to address more sensibly in your Post #201. Refer to your own last two sentences where you start talking more sense.
You state: We are under attack by an international Jihad, we are ground zero for the war, and you talk of coalitions and soothing feelings with our enemies.
We are under attack by an international jihad, and you imply the answer is killing everyone who takes the name of Islam! Would you like to start with the 12 million or so in this country? And then would you like to go on to the 500 million or so others? Would this really be in America's best interests? Would you prefer to turn those with a passive adherence to Islam and a neutral stance into immediate jihadist warriors?
No. The wise course (not the most emotionally satisfying) is to appeal to those who can be appealed to and target those who can't. Strategically, we need to split the Islamic bloc, just as they mean to split ours by encouraging our anti-war wing and Liberals to look for the "root causes". Some Muslims can be appealed to and persuaded to forsake their more radical brethren or at least remain neutral. We should encourage these, not drive them into the camp of our sworn enemies.
We shouldn't look at our enemies with rose colored glasses. On the other hand, we need to take whatever help we can get when we can get it. This will be a long and bloody war. One of their tactics will be deception using the fervent kisses of Muslims who claim to be our friends. When revealed, we should go after them with the same ruthlessness we go after the visibly rabid factions. But, we shouldn't close the door on those who will really stand by us - and there will be some of these.
You seem to have missed the point: you have stated that you do not consider believers in “Christian Identity” to be “bonafide Christians,” but nevertheless you continue to refer to such people as part of the “Christian right.” Your statements “can be objectively verified” – and they are inconsistent, to say the least.
By all means, share with us your knowledge of the subject matter.
If you would find it helpful, I will be happy to provide a list of a few relevant titles from my library…
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Please do. I'd recommend Tabernacle of Hate: Why They Bombed Oklahoma City by Kerry Noble. Noble was the "Minister of Propaganda" and 2nd in command of the Covenant, Sword and Arm of the Lord (CSA).
Bush was talking about praying to Jesus Christ who is at the Right Hand of God the Father. Jesus is the door to heaven not the muslim god. The Bible says that the keys to heaven are through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. A person is not ready to die until they are ready to die. If you do not know Jesus Christ as your saviour I would suggest that you accept His invitation now. Then let your heart not be troubled because you belong to the One that knows the future and He will protect you and your family.
Oh yeah, sure. That must be why he advised people to go pray at mosques and invited a Muslim minister to lead the country in a prayer to Allah. Did you even listen to Bush's speech?
But (more to the point) if you can refrain from referring to people whom you yourself declare are not "bonafide Christians" as members of the "Christian right," your posts would improve somewhat in both accuracy and consistency...
Are you for real?
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