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How do we end terrorism without being impolite to Muslims?
Disgust at the news in general...... | 9/28/01 | HairOfTheDog

Posted on 09/28/2001 11:00:41 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: Gracey
Thank you for the link, I visited the site. I am preparing a letter to Mr. Zogby now.
21 posted on 09/28/2001 2:55:03 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
How can we use your words above and get FReepers to ingest it and start a e-mail campaign. We can let the Arab-American community to show their patriotism. How about it!!
22 posted on 09/28/2001 3:53:48 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: Gracey
I am willing, but know not how.... I am but a fledgling Freeper. I have sent the article to my local liberal paper, but do not expect it to be printed. Help anyone?
23 posted on 09/28/2001 4:07:01 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Viktra
It's time we stood up as a nation, closed our borders to all those aliens who run for shelter under our flag and then enjoy the freedom allowed by the constitution

Well said and true!

24 posted on 09/28/2001 4:07:26 PM PDT by neutrino (Neutrino)
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To: East Bay Patriot
Did you READ what I wrote?
26 posted on 09/28/2001 4:16:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well, whatcha want to do about it? Put all Muslims in internment camps? Revoke their citizenship? Deport all of them, including those who are legal immigrants or citizens? In good faith, you really can't do any of that.

Perhaps we should keep a little closer eye on our Muslim friends... but we shouldn't persecute them -- unless individuals can be proven to either be connected or sympathetic to a terrorist. They are, after all, innocent until proven guilty, aren't they?

Blaming all Muslims for these terrorist attacks is akin to blaming all Christians for slavery. Neither is an accurate conjecture.

27 posted on 09/28/2001 4:22:09 PM PDT by clikker
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To: HairOfTheDog
Most nations that do exist and have existed would not be worried about being 'impolite' to people belonging to a particular race or religion that just murdered 6000 innocent non-combantants, and caused billions of dollars of economic damage.

Most nations would be pondering the most painful ways to eliminate them.

The response of America has been much different. No Muslim has been summarily executed. No one has had their property stolen. No citizen has been derprived of their freedom. Quite the opposite, in fact. Our religious, political, military, and civilian law enforcement leaders have gone out of their way to ensure that none of this occurs.

Given this background, if the FBI sent an agent to the door of every single Muslim in the United States to ask them questions, there is no legitimate grounds for complaint by anyone. Not the Muslims, and not the America-haters either.

In the meantime, all the feminized apologists for America can go straight to hell and join in an orgy with their 'brethern-of-heart' who crashed those planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

28 posted on 09/28/2001 4:23:35 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: clikker
Deport non-citizens at least as a first step.
29 posted on 09/28/2001 4:25:11 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: HairOfTheDog
On a side note, has a Muslim or an American of Arab decent ever been elected to Congress? I'm kinda curious about that.
30 posted on 09/28/2001 4:30:52 PM PDT by clikker
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To: clikker
?"Well, whatcha want to do about it? Put all Muslims in internment camps? Revoke their citizenship? Deport all of them, including those who are legal immigrants or citizens? In good faith, you really can't do any of that."?

Clikker, I had not suggested any of those things, what I asked for in my article is that Muslims in America come forward and choose sides. Mere vague references to Islam being a religion of peace is not enough.

"My mistrust will diminish when those Middle-Eastern Muslims here in America are the most vocal about rooting out this problem. The problem is that those that are speaking up so far are those that feel victimized unfairly, or offer vague references that Islam is a religion of peace, and not terror. Clearly there are lots of Muslims who have read something else. Where are those that have overheard discussions, but did not participate? Where are those that have been approached to participate or give money, but chose not to? Where are those that were trusted enough to confide in, but did not decide to join? Or those that joined ethnic or Muslim groups they believed to improve people's lives, only to find out that the real mission was something very different? Where are those that are vocal about exposing those among them that are the problem? Until they speak up, I will continue to mistrust all of them without feeling an ounce of guilt, because I refuse to feel guiltier than they do about these attacks on our country."

32 posted on 09/28/2001 4:40:08 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: clikker
"Well, whatcha want to do about it? Put all Muslims in internment camps? Revoke their citizenship? Deport all of them, including those who are legal immigrants or citizens?"

Answer to question #1: If we have to, yes.
Answer to question #2: Yes, revoke their citizenship.
Answer to question #3: Yes, deport as many as we can.

33 posted on 09/28/2001 4:40:47 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: East Bay Patriot
(Whew! SHE says ...was getting worked up!) ;)
34 posted on 09/28/2001 4:47:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Clikker, I had not suggested any of those things, what I asked for in my article is that Muslims in America come forward and choose sides. Mere vague references to Islam being a religion of peace is not enough.

Yes, they should. And, I'd imagine that many do -- but many probably don't make their statements public (as in make a live broadcast on CNN). The major American Muslim Orgainzations should come out and condemn them, also.

Whether Islam is truly a religion of peace I do not know. Remember, though, religious verse is usually vague and allows the reader to make his own interpretation of the text, so Islam may not be inherently evil. (Also remember that the Koran is an interpreted text, and Arabic-to-English translations are supposedly rough and imperfect.)

I didn't mean to infer that you want to pen Muslims in Internment Camps. I just kinda extended the logic to the point of absurdity to demonstrate my point. Sorry about that.

35 posted on 09/28/2001 5:03:42 PM PDT by clikker
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To: rebdov
"The problem is, I think, is that many US Muslims may have been approached, or heard things,or saw things and are scared to death to open their mouths. Remember back in the 50's, many people knew or heard about communist activities but were afraid to open their mouths. Fear is very powerful. You think it was easy to be against Hitler or Stalin? Think it's easy to buck the Bin Laden brigades? The Mob? Do you think the MOB could function without a lot of people shutting their mouths out of fear? Fear is a great weapon. It is very difficult to get courage and risk one's life."
Has there been any more news about the 5th grade boy in Garland, TX who came up to his teacher September 10th and told her that World War III was going to begin in America the next day and that America was going to lose?
36 posted on 09/28/2001 5:04:05 PM PDT by Texas Gal
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'd like to propose a "Million to 1 Shot". Which means ... You kill one of Ours, We'll kill 1 million of yours. Enough of the PC bs. These "would be" or "could possibly be" Terrorists need to fear us. Their children need to fear us, their parents and friends need to fear us. Why can't our CDC make plans to use these "would be terrorists" as test subjects. Certainly they could be of some value as bio test subjects. By the way --- the last Scandi terrorist was accused of selling bad lefsa... - so I feel their pain!
37 posted on 09/28/2001 5:11:19 PM PDT by Kviteseid
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To: StormEye
"Well, whatcha want to do about it? Put all Muslims in internment camps? Revoke their citizenship? Deport all of them, including those who are legal immigrants or citizens?"
Answer to question #1: If we have to, yes. Answer to question #2: Yes, revoke their citizenship. Answer to question #3: Yes, deport as many as we can.

Do you really have that much disregard for the Constitution, or was that sarcasm?

You really believe that it is right to herd United States Citizens into concentration camps? Whatever did happen to things like "innocent until proven guilty", or "equal justice under the law" and other such concepts?

Next, the Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional (I believe) to revoke a citizen's citizenship -- cruel and unusual punishment. But does the 8th Amendment not apply to Muslims?

Last of all, I doubt that the Government has the power to deport citizens. Where would you deport them to, anyway? Their homes are in the US.

If I come across as condesending (as I think I have), I apologize. I just want to know if you're really serious about what you said.

38 posted on 09/28/2001 5:12:52 PM PDT by clikker
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To: Kviteseid
Keep me posted on these "bad-lefsa-sellin scandi terrorists" As a Norsky myself, I would be the first to condemn such blaspheme. Oof-dah.
39 posted on 09/28/2001 5:18:09 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Paul Craig Roberts: "Americans might be so politically correct and racially sensitive as to be unable to deal with the problem at all."
40 posted on 09/28/2001 5:20:57 PM PDT by Re-electNobody
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