America Approves Limits to Liberties

The Detroit News ^ | September 16, 2001 | Cameron McWhirter

[sc01]

deport or detain resident aliens with roots in the middle east. detainment works. how many japenese terrorist attacks were there following pearl harbor?

[Cultural Jihad]

Anyone care to comment on sc01's comment in post #81?

[He Rides A White Horse]

It is wartime, make no mistake about it. We must be as equally guarded against those who would exploit the situation.

[another1]

I am confident that any legislation that transgresses Constitutional limits will be duly challenged and struck down.

I can understand your confidence. After all, this premise has worked so well regarding the second amendment, and things like the ESA.

[poet]

Tbe bologna method: One slice at a time. It is not acceptable to me. Be careful of giving up your freedoms to achieve "anything that's peaceful".

[sc01]

What? No more laissez-faire open borders? How do those boots fit you? Sheesh.</>

your passive smuggness is most un-welcome when we are at war within our own border.. i know peole who are missing at the WTC and their families , so i have little patience for traitorous attitides like yours

[poet]

Whoa there!!!!!! Please think about what you are saying. Do you really want to to go that route? First brown eyed people, then blue eyes have to go, guys with beards and on and on.

[Cultural Jihad]

Then please explain your post #71. I want to win this war against terrorism, too. To do so will require sacrifices on the part of all Americans. I mention this fact and you told me to get out of the country. You'll have to either read more carefully or explain your irrational posts.

[Cultural Jihad]

Err, your post 76, that is.

[another1]

I want to win this war against terrorism, too.

What is the criteria that will indicate we have "won" and the "war" is over?

[riley1992]

No, "any little sacrifice" is not too much to ask. I am fully prepared to do what is needed of me to maintain the liberties and freedoms this country was founded on. I will not, however acquiesce to ceding those very freedoms in the name of patriotism never to see them returned again. The 'safety' of which all of these politicans are speaking will be fleeting at best. Terrorism will always exist, CJ. We need to eradicate the terrorists that we can, not our freedoms. The pay-off for quasi-safety cannot be loss of freedom or the only one that wins is terrorism.

[Cultural Jihad]

No, there's no need to deport or incarcerate legal residents. We have the technology in place to focus on those who need to be focused upon, and hence no need for blanket actions against whole ethnic groups, as was done against Americans of Japanese descent in 1942. sc01 is not alone in his irrationality this week, but his views are not shared by those in power.

[sc01]

Whoa there!!!!!! Please think about what you are saying. Do you really want to to go that route?

absolutely, to preempt any further terror attacks on our soil.. they caused chaos in this country and killed 5,000 or more of our own people.

[Alan Chapman]

The only thing they have proposed for the airlines that could have stopped this is armed guards in every plane. Every other measure being proposed would not have done anything to stop this.

Actually, there was one other idea. In Israel, airline pilots enter the cockpit from a seperate entrance. The cockpit is completely self-contained and not accessible from the passanger cabin.

[Kithlyara]

Everyone keeps saying how the world has changed since Tuesday. That's not true. America's perception of the world has changed. The world is still the same as it was before.

I don't care about longer lines at the border or at the airport. Honestly, if the airports had been enforcing the security measures they already had in place, the waits would have been longer anyway. I will, however, not give up my civil liberties. The government proved on Tuesday that they cannot be trusted to ensure my safety. If the government had not steadily cut back on defense and intelligence spending over the past decade, we might have known about the planned attacks with enough advance notice to do something about it.

If we give up our civil liberties, then we may as well throw in the towel now. The terrorists would have already won.

[Cultural Jihad]

Forget terrorism for a moment. We have lost so much freedom and liberty over the past 30 years thanks to the advent of moral-liberalism. Women and children used to have the freedom to walk the streets at night. Families used to enjoy the freedom to have picnics in the park unmolested by gangs. Children used to enjoy the freedom of their innocence unassaulted by the pop culture. We never heard the ideologues decrying these lost liberties. Indeed, they were championed and excused and rationalized and justified, but not condemned.

[sc01]

We have the technology in place to focus on those who need to be focused upon, and hence no need for blanket actions against whole ethnic groups

surveillance failed us BIG TIME!

[Cultural Jihad]

surveillance failed us BIG TIME!

Well, go ahead and round up all the Arabs you can and keep 'em in your basement. What?! You want statists to do this dirty work for you?! Then go write your Congressman about it. Sheesh.

[riley1992]

I understand your point, I truly do. However, the freedoms I am referring to in this case are the ones laid out in the Constitution. As much as I wish my children had the ability to play in the neighborhood unattended as I did, that is not a Constitutional right.