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Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate
Conservatism IS Compassion ^ | Sept 14, 2001 | Conservatism_IS_Compassion

Posted on 09/14/2001 7:02:19 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion

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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
The anwer to the post title question is two words, Free Republic.
121 posted on 08/19/2002 10:27:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
The answer to the post title question is two words, Free Republic.
Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary because the Constitution was designed not to need it--it was unnecessary before the Internet.

Broadcast Journalism is Illegitimate because journalism is politics, and broadcasting makes some of us more equal than others. Much more equal. Before the law. The Constitutional right to speak implies the right to listen, but the FCC right to listen is the negation of the people's right to speak.

FR is a realization of the people's right to speak. It is the nations' letters-to-the-editor page.


122 posted on 08/19/2002 12:40:46 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Search4Truth
So true. TV journalism is entertainment, not truth. It was not until the Internet that I had any inkling of what the truth was. God bless America, the Internet and FreeRepublic.com.

15 posted on 9/14/01 8:12 AM Pacific by Search4Truth

You and I both. Interesting screen name you have ;`)

125 posted on 08/20/2002 12:04:33 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; MarkWar
From my perspective (which neither of you may consider relevant) of your debate, I see decent points in both of your exchanges but I have to say one thing.

Mark, What_point_are_you_trying_to_make_with_this_underscore_business? Call me blind, but I can't read this crap!

126 posted on 08/20/2002 12:15:14 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: Looking4Truth
BIG MEDIA LIES!!!
127 posted on 08/20/2002 12:16:52 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: antiLiberalCrusader
Jeez---I had forgotten all about this thread. Thanks for bringing me back to it.
128 posted on 08/20/2002 5:42:46 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; antiLiberalCrusader; Looking4Truth; 1Old Pro; mlocher; Paul Atreides; ...
to me journalism should be an honorable profession, and should just report the facts with no slant. I was referring to my love for journalism itself, not the current batch of fakers we have out there.
Then you still think that freedom can allow you buy "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". Were that so, we wouldn't need jurors; for seventy five cents and a trip to the convenience store we could just get to the bottom of things. Much cheaper than trials . . .

No, freedom is exactly the right to loudly disagree with those who are rich and/or powerful. The worst feature of journalism today is its pravda--its ersatz "truth" which is really nothing more than a self-interested PR-driven consensus. It is the PR which generates the cash flow of journalism--people feel good about themselves for being "in the know" by reading or hearing journalism. That effect would be subverted by a lack of consensus among journalists, so journalistic organs define journalism by adherence to its consensus.

That is why Rush Limbaugh "is not a journalist." All he does is report, tell you the truth as he understands the truth--but he's "not a journalist" because he is outside the the consensus by which journalism defines the truth. Socialists argue by definition a lot. They're called "liberals" in the U.S. not because socialism has anything to do with liberty but because in the U.S. we-the-people were in love with liberty.

If ever you hear a "liberal" say that "society should" do some particular thing (e.g., provide medicine), try pointing out that society (we-the-people, including phamaceutical companies and insurance companies and charities) actually does quite a bit of that. Push the issue of a distinction between "society" and government hard enough, and the "liberal" will make clear that s/he defines "society" to mean nothing other than government.

If you understand that the socialist defines society to mean government, you can see that the coined word "socialism" should really be "governmentism". The fact that "governmentism" is essentially a synonym for "tyranny" explains why the PR-savy "governmentist" would find a touchy-feely word to conceal that nexus. The dictionary definition of "socialism"--something about "government ownership of the means of production" has nothing to do with the root-word "social" unless it be through the assumption of "democracy."

It is, accordingly, no accident that socialists prattle about democracy as if that were a magic incantation, notwithstanding (nay, in aggressive denial of) the fact that democracy is not the form of any real existing large government. It is also noteworthy that concern about voter fraud is beneath them. Voter fraud itself seems not to bother them, but concern about it sure does . . .

We-the-people in the U.S. saw thru the con which the label "socialism" really is (without necessarily being able to articulate it as above), and so the PR-savy U.S. socialists systematically applied the popular label "liberal" to their governmentist nostrums. If you read the WWII clasic The Road to Serfdom, you must understand the word "liberal" in the British sense, what Americans now call either "conservative" or "libertarian." This is explained in the foreword to the 1956 edition of Serfdom.

The upshot has been to discredit (at least in political context) the words "liberalism" and "society"/"social". The lefties have had to move from one warm-and-fuzzy word to another, but in the process they have subverted the language so that American "conservatives" have difficulty articulating the arguments against leftism which they intuit or understand. For example, if I mention that I favor "progress" you might become suspicious of me since that's used as a leftist codeword. American conservatives, however, are "conservative" precisely of the ability of we-the-people (a.k.a. society) to double our standard of living every couple of generations. Conservative, that is, not only of liberty but of its blessings, including progress for our posterity.

Mass-marketing/PR is a source of considerable destructive political power in America. Mass-marketing/PR have much to answer for, and the conceit of "journalistic objectivity" seems to be the root of PR.


129 posted on 08/20/2002 8:56:46 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
BTTT!!!!!
130 posted on 08/20/2002 9:14:28 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Let me add to that that I have read the article by conservatism-IS-compassion and it is the best well written thoroughly thought out article I've ever read since I've been here at Free Republic.

I've researched the issue of media bias for the last several years and this article pretty much reaffirms a lot of my observations.

Broadcast journalism is indeed unnecessary and illegitimate as evidenced by the continued cozyness which continues to exist between some news organizations and the Democrats. Clearly we as a nation are being done a disservice as a result.

Thanks C-I-C for the bump and the article. Regards.

131 posted on 08/20/2002 9:45:34 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
The Government it self is involved here look at Bush spreading the big lie that "Islam is a religion of peace"
none of this really matters when the top dog is a lying dog!
132 posted on 08/20/2002 9:52:15 AM PDT by claptrap
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To: claptrap
Bush spreading the big lie that "Islam is a religion of peace"

none of this really matters when the top dog is a lying dog!

IMHO the "Islam is a religion of peace" mantra is a challenge to moslems to live up to the name he is giving them, and a way to "draw a circle to include in" everyone with whom it is possible to deal. I don't hear him prostelyzing for Islam.

You want to talk about a top dog who was a lying dog?!! Not Bush, nor all Republicans together throughout history, compares with x42 in that regard.


133 posted on 08/20/2002 11:00:28 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
and broadcast journalism is no part of the press at all

Of course it isn't. At that time Franklin hadn't harnessed lightning and Tesla hadn't invented radio. But broadcast journalism is great entertainment.

134 posted on 08/20/2002 11:03:20 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
"If somehow you nail them dead to rights in consistent tendentiousness, they will merely shrug and change the subject."

Yea, sure; to you or I they'd be quick to pull that kind of "brush-off" stunt.

Buuuttt...when "Daddy GE" & his phalanx of beancounters speak over at General Electric?
The Leftist-Socialist blather and obfuscation doesn't go too far, eh?
The Leftist-Socialists ignore Big Daddy at their own risk.
The present ilk of Leftist-Socialists running these network News & "Entertainment" divisions (spit...) understand all too well they risking losing their soapbox -- instantly.

Capitalism is the only thing which (up to now) has kept the Leftist-Socialists in-check this past decade; otherwise, I'd dare say this group (in particular!!) would've been a LOT braver, bolder in forcing their agenda down everyone's throats?

Capitalism is their enemy; &, why they dispise [it] so much.
Certainly has explained (to me) why Capitalism's demonized in each & every story they produce in whatever way they can fit-in the smear.
That can be said, regardless the medium, too; as this cancer infects the "Journalist-Class" from top to bottom with very few exceptions.

The Liberal-Socialist "Journalism" *professorate* taught this present bunch what & where the *prize* was to be had, in our kind of society.
The present gaggle of Liberal-Socialists in control weren't just taught what to do once they acquired their power; so, it'll be interesting to see what they were taught [to do] if/when that power were ever threatened or taken away, altogether.
These guys aren't just going to *evaporate* & go away as much as we'd hope & pray they'd do exactly that.

"The money in the business of journalism is in entertainment, not truth. It is that imperative to entertain which produces the perspective of journalism."

I've often heard that said; however, where does [abject] "fear" enter the equation??
The Lamestream are experts at keeping this nation beaten into a continual frenzy of fear.
Be it "kidnappings" (which have ocurred since time immemorial...), or the imminant doom we're all facing from the, "West Nile Virus" (which coincidentally is "Front Page" ever since the present administration began probing the CDC ~& nevermind AIDS) & all the other countless contrived, "Fear Of The Week/Month" news "stories" (past & present) the nation's carpet-bombed with 24/7?

You must agree, then; it's the WHO's using the soapbox & not the soapbox itself causing all the stink.
Although our constitution was written long before the mass media monster we're being strangled by today?
IF we infringe on any part -- as another wise poster reminded me just last week -- we risk some awful ramifications.

"In sum, if journalists had any other thought than to exacerbate the situation and cause the nation to watch in horrified fascination, they had a remarkably strange way of showing it."

Actually, I'd think they'd have spun that ugly incident precisely as they had; in order to help 'em *point* social consciousness in the exact direction they wanted & could manipulate every step of the way.
That's why these "Journalists" always seem to be one step ahead of us.
We're not taking into account the Lamestream Leftist-Socialists KNOW where they want to take the nation; while, we're merely bitching about the mechanics of their actions.
We're refusing to recognize *motive*, here.
It's the Leftist-Socialist's motive which is beneath contempt, worthy of condemnation, & needing to be emphasized at every opportunity.

These are the most vile type of Socialists we're speaking about, here; they're young, dumb, & have heads freshly filled with an awful lot of plain, ol' bullshit ALL courtesy of OUR TAXPAYER FUNDED institutions of, "Higher Education."
We all know the type, too; "America Bad. America Racist. Utopia Good. Follow US to Utopia."

...modus operandi hasn't changed since Lennin dreamt-up this nightmare ideology.

135 posted on 08/20/2002 1:04:21 PM PDT by Landru
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To: E.G.C.
I have read the article by conservatism-IS-compassion and it is the best well written thoroughly thought out article I've ever read since I've been here at Free Republic.
Anyone insightful enough to realize that, must have bookmarked some fascinating reading. I'll just go see.
I'm reminded of the Military History class in which Captain Herter started out by apologizing for the quality of a hand-drawn map on the overhead projector. A toady replied, "This is obviously a Rembrandt!" That toady was me.

136 posted on 08/20/2002 2:52:20 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: RightWhale
and broadcast journalism is no part of the press at all
Of course it isn't. At that time Franklin hadn't harnessed lightning and Tesla hadn't invented radio.
I'm not sure you understand my position. I say that broadcast journalism is not part of "the press" because broadcasting is licensed by the government in a way no ink-and-paper, literal press ever has been.

Wireless communication was indeed developed long after the First Amendment was ratified, but that is not the right criterion to use; if it were then the high speed press--which has completely superceded the technology of the founding era--might logically be subject to license requirements like broadcasting is (not that I like the thought of giving anyone ideas!). No, the point is that wireless communication is a technology which enables broadcasting but did not create broadcasting. Broadcasting is, rather, wireless communication in clear channels created by government censorship of we-the-people.

There is a perfect example of a medium which is not created by government censorship, and which logically falls under First Amendment protection--you're reading it right now. It wasn't the government's fault that the Internet didn't exist in 1950, but now that it exists as an enabling technology for we-the-people to publish our political (and other) opinions the government has no right to censor the expression of our political opinions on this venue.

But broadcast journalism is great entertainment.
That is indeed its function, entertainment.

137 posted on 08/20/2002 7:01:11 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
the government has no right to censor the expression of our political opinions on this venue.

It's our strength. If they ever crack down they would have to dump the Bill of Rights and that would be the end of it.

138 posted on 08/20/2002 8:44:46 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Journalism is defined by its deadlines, and by its self-proclaimed "objectivity." But it turns out that short deadlines are a liberal bias. Short deadlines focus the attention on the short term, just as surely as a microscope focuses the eye on the small picture.

In temporal economic terms, the big picture is our free competitive economy gradually doubling our standard of living every couple of generations. But that fact doesn't change from day to day, and so is ignored by journalism. Journalism focuses instead on short-term ups and downs which are superimposed on that long-term secular trend. Not only does this miss the main thing which happens to the economy over an individual's lifetime, but--a remarkable result of modern Chaos Theory--on relatively short time scales the largest changes will be drops rather than rises in stock prices even while the long-term secular trend is upward.

I repeat:

In a perfectly dispassionate day-to-day account of the biggest changes in the stock market, declines would predominate even while the long-term secular trend is upward.
It follows that short deadlines are, in and of themselves, skewed towards the reporting of bad news. And that an attraction to the reporting of news on short deadline is an attraction to the reporting of bad news. This has political implications.

The question of the definition of the political spectrum is much discussed among conservatives and especially libertarians. IMHO the American conservative viewpoint is best extracted from the preamble to the Constitution:

. . . to . . . promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity . . .
Journalism tends to erase the long term conservative trend in favor of incessant alarums about immediate negative changes. The tendency of self-selection is, therefore, that journalists are anticonservative. Anticonservative people are eager to report bad news on short deadline because it makes the institutions and people upon whom we-the-people depend look bad. This explains why anticonservative political figures such as George Stephanopolis fit so easily into the mold of journalist, whereas conservative political figures are never positioned by any journalist as being "objective." De facto, "objective" is, a code-word for "anticonservative."

If such be the case, as it obviously is (see Ann Coulter's Slander for supporting anecdoatal, but abundant, evidence) is the First Amendment wrong to establish freedom of the press? Not at all, because journalism is not the whole of the press nor is all of journalism (as we know it) part of the press at all. Books are unambiguously part of "the press," for example. And although the government was never to be faulted for the fact that the Internet didn't exist as a major public forum 20 years ago, the fact that the Internet does now exist as "the poor man's soapbox" with national and even global reach establishes it as part of the press today.

But all protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, broadcast journalism is not protected by the First Amendment. Broadcasting (radio transmissions which you have a right to receive but no right to transmit) is based on government censorship of we-the-people to provide clear channels for government-favored licensees. If something is a constitutional right, how can the government punish you for doing it without the government's permission?

139 posted on 08/26/2002 7:58:48 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: E.G.C.
Bump to my #139 . . .
140 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:45 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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