Posted on 09/14/2001 7:02:19 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
The editorial page ain't going nowhere. Why? Because the actual purpose of the editorial page is to "position" the rest of the paper as not being a matter of opinion printed by mere mortals. Take away the editorial page, and the whole paper will be recognized to be what they admit the editorial page is.Admit that journalism is nothing more than politics? I doubt it! I'd love it - but I'll believe it when I see it.
BTTT
That is the legal rationale, but it is in contravention of the First Amendment and it is impractical.The planted axiom in the Fairness Doctrine - and indeed in FCC broadcast licensing - is that the government (in whatever guise, bureaucratic or otherwise) can judge fairness. Read the First Amendment and you will not find any justification for that conceit. The First Amendment expresses the right of the people to speak and print their own opinions, on their own dime, to their hearts' content. That means, as journalists love to say, that journalists are free to tell the truth. It also means that journalists are free to be extremely partisan.
Journalists are free under the First Amendment, but no more so than gun owners are free under the Second Amendment. Indeed, although the First Amendment nowhere stipulates that it is necessary that the Sultzberg family own a printing press, the Second Amendment stipulates that a militia is "necessary" and that gun ownership is protected for that reason. So newspapers are free but they must fend for themselves economically. No newspaper is inherently in the public interest.
Yet the planted axiom of the Fairness Doctrine is that journalism is objective and is in the public interest. That could not be proved even if it were true - you can't prove a negative of lack of bias - but even worse, it is provably false. Bad news for the public is good for the journalism business. If it bleeds, it leads. That is the economic interest of journalism, and it interests the public - but that is not identical to the public interest. News that terrifies you, interests you without at all being in your interest.
Once recognize that journalism's interest is not the public interest, and the conceit that journalism is objective collapses of its own arrogance. The government has no legitimate authority to judge between The New York Times - or any broadcaster who parrots it - and Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken or anyone else. The conceit that the Fairness Doctrine is constitutional is absurd from a First Amendment perspective.
Silencing conservatives on the airwaves
WND ^ | 01-12-2007 | Melanie MorganPosted on 01/12/2007 8:32:02 PM EST by BlueJ7
The Rev. Jesse Jackson, the object of fawning media coverage despite the scandal of producing a child from an extramarital affair, argued before the conference for the right to be heard and insisted that the major media were not telling the real story of pain and suffering in George Bushs America.What jumped out at me was Jesse Jackson arguing for "the right to be heard". Where exactly is that outlined in the Constitution? AirHead America had a right to build its broadcast network and spout whatever they pleased. Trouble is, nobody listened. I guess their "right to be heard" comes with a corresponding power to force people to listen. What's most frightening is that they may well get their way.
We don't have a "right to be heard," and we don't have a "right to the truth." What we have is a right to our own opinions, and the right to speak and spend our own money publishing our opinions. But nobody has to listen.The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .
It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. - Adam SmithHalf the truth is often a great lie. - Benjamin FranklinSpecial Report: The Plan To Silence Conservatives
News By Us ^ | (01/15/07) | Cliff Kincaid
BTTT
Okay, like Maverick in Top Gun, I'm going to engage.
As I've noted in other threads, my belief is the MSM is nothing more than a network of marketing firms with the DNC as their largest client. This marketing collective is comprised of ad copy writers and spokespersons posing as credentialed journalists. Pulitzers serve to establish credibility in the minds of average American's where none is due.
On the left, everyone with self-perceived influence expects their marketing pitch to be heard via the MSM because it is understood the MSM is employed by the DNC to get its message out. Any story that credits the right in anyway is perceived as conservative bias.
To perpetuate this fraud, the MSM must walk a thin line and not be too obvious about their true business; Marketing of a political client. Those on the right see the problem clearly, but no critical mass for significant change exists so the MSM continues to push the limits unfettered.
Now look at the situation again; Jesse paid for air time by delivering the black vote to the DNC. In turn the DNC should open its marketing channels and resources up to the good reverend. This is what he meant by right to be heard. I was a slip for which I'm sure someone at the DNC talked to him about.
BOMBSHELL 1:
There is no association between Objective Journalism/News and the MSM. Objective Jounalism/Reporting is the antithesis of Marketing and therefor the antithesis of the MSM.
BOMBSHELL 2:
There is NO BIAS in the MSM, except for conservative BIAS. Again, the MSM markets for the DNC. Any ad copy that puts the conservative in a neutral or better than neutral light is not acceptible to the DNC or those it represents and is therefor perceived on the left as conservative BIAS and noted as such by liberal celebrities and others. In there minds, based on this model they have a point.
My suggestion is to start outing the MSM as the marketing firms they are. The masterful illusion of BIAS created by the left to mask their true nature is simply false and is causing a great deal of tail chasing on the right.
BOMBSHELL 3:
Newsbusters, Media Research Center, Rush Limbaugh are NOT HELPING the situation with their continued use of the word "bias" and "media". Both of which imply some expectation of objectivity, which only serves to perpetute the fraud and confuse the conservative movement.
Eddie01
I agree that, since everyone - including the supposedly "objective" reporters and editors - is entitled to their own opinion, and entitled to express their opinion, the idea of "bias in the media" is fallacious. And that it is disadvantageous to call journalists "biased."Their opinion is, simply, their opinion - and they can express that opinion openly or they can insinuate their opinion by what they emphasize, what they deemphasize, and what information they simply ignore. And they can do that on the editorial page and they can do that on the front page - constitutionally there is no difference. When you complain about "bias" you are actually arguing from the premise which they have deceptively promulgated. The premise that journalism should be objective.
Journalism is politics.
The relation between "the MSM" and the Democratic Party is interesting and challenging. Many conservatives claim that the Democratic Party has the MSM in its pocket; you say something simiar when you speak of the MSM as marketing firms whose client is the Democratic Party.But another way of looking at it is to consider that journalists promote journalism, and believe that journalism should control politics. But of course to speak of journalism controlling politics is to reject the idea of independence among journalists. And by and large that comports with observed reality - journalists don't challenge the "objectivity" of other journalists. They are in full go-along-and-get-along mode. That is understandable if you consider that, for the price of not challenging any other journalist, you buy the ability to be considered "objective" by all other journalists. Flame wars would be bad for profits.
Rush Limbaugh says he isn't a journalist, by which he means that he has a perspective - conservatism - and does not claim to be objective. That is actually a philosophical position - he admits that wisdom exists and he aspires to it - but he does not argue from the assumption that he is wise.
"Objectivity" is difficult to seperate from wisdom. After all, whoever heard of unwise objectivity? So the "objective" journalist actually argues from a claim of his own wisdom. And in so doing he is guilty of sophistry:
- I am wise.
- You don't even claim to be wise.
- Therefore I am right and you are wrong.
My thesis is that "liberalism," "moderation," "centrism," and "progressivism" are virtuous labels given by journalists to people who promote the idea that journalism is important. Journalists reserve "objectivity" as a label which they award only to themselves.
That's Senate Bill 1. Call your senators and ask them to vote to remove Section 220. (The bill is actually about lobbying reform, but Section 220 tramples free speech.). . . except that his senators are Boxer and another Democratic woman, and my senators are Hillary and Chuck. And "actually about lobbying reform" pretty much is "trampling on free speech."You know what's most important over at the Upper House. Staying in the Upper House of course.They always have been for free speech...as long as the speech in question recites their talking points. And, they have the cojones to call OUR side of the aisle fascistic.Some would say that they are for their own free speech because they have "the mainstream media" on their side. I put it differently - in promoting itself, Big Journalism promotes cheap talk, and in promoting themselves Democratic politicians promote cheap talk. By "cheap talk" I mean what Theodore Roosevelt meant when he said, "It is not the critic who counts . . . The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . ."Journalism aspires to predominant influence, and yet journalism doesn't do anything. In order to arrogate to themselves more credit than those who produce and distribute our food, clothing and shelter and those who provide security, journalism criticizes the providers relentlessly - and Big Journalism fights against the freedom to publicize views in opposition to that.
Undoubtedly it would not be well for anyone to be totally immune to criticism, so in that sense people with the motive to nitpick no doubt have a role to play. The great problem is that
A move by this political force to muzzle opposition is dangerous; up until 1992 it had been forty years since the Republicans had a majority in the House, and sixty years since the Republicans had been politically dominant in the country. But at least it may get the issue of free speech and press back in front of SCOTUS, with Alito and Roberts on the bench in place of O'Connor and Rhenquist (whose 1-1 split allowed McCain to be upheld on a 5-4 vote).
- Journalism has coalesced into Big Journalism - an entity with a single, self-serving viewpoint organized around the sophistry of the claim that Big Journalism provides, and America must have, objective journalism. And,
- Many people, from the middle class (known as "the poor" but having a standard of living which is the envy of most of the world today and would have been the envy of the rich in 1800) through the strata to the wealthiest, put themselves on the side of Big Journalism and in opposition to those who "are actually in the arena." Even though most of them are themselves "actually in the arena" in some circumstances.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.""Citizenship in a Republic,"
Theodore Roosevelt,
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .
It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. - Adam SmithHalf the truth is often a great lie. - Benjamin Franklin
I give you an A+ for delivering a written arse whooping. Please tell me you are on our side. LOL.
For more on media bias and its historical roots, I could not do better than to recommend Thomas Frank's The Conquest of Cool. This remarkable work of cultural history documents the historical relationships among the entertainment, journalism, and advertising industries and radical politics from the 1950s onward. It is a damning indictment of media culture, the Rosetta Stone of media bias. Frank's status as a major lib only enhances its credibility.
It runs counter not only to the interests of PBS but of Rush Limbaugh. My only defense for Rush is the fact that his program is actually, provably, philosophical - whereas "objective" journalism projects a perspective which is actually, provably, sopistry.That is so because - mock braggadocio aside - Rush does not argue from a claim of virtue, but journalism claims the virtue of objectivity (is that in any wise distinguishable from wisdom?) and assigns to those who are sympatico with journalism's perspective the classical virtue of moderation (a.k.a. "centrism") and the American virtues of liberalism and progressivism. Said differently, Rush takes intelectual challenges seriously, and "liberals" use power to dismiss intellectual challenges by suppressing public curiosity about them to the extent of their considerable PR power.
Your billing of it sounds wonderful, but in following the link you provide I found my eyes glazing over. I just dismiss the "counterculture" as an expression of the culture of journalism. Nothing more than a bunch of "dissenters" on TV railing against "the establishment" - when they were on TV precisely because the actual establishment - Big Journalism - wanted them (and not you or me) there.Establishment "dissent." You buy that, I've got some dry water to sell you.
FMCDH(BITS)
A requirement for "fairness" presumes objective judgement of "bias." But then, if the government can be trusted to be objective then the First Amendment is absurd. Which is precisely what, in their heart of hearts, "liberals" believe.By functioning as presumptuous critics, journalists promote the socialistic agenda because socialism is nothing more that criticism of capitalists. When the socialist attains power, he becomes paralyzed by the fear of failure and criticism, and therefore makes progress impossible. Yet the journalist will call such people "progressive."And honest reading of the First Amendment would tell you to expect that journalism is politics. And that, all protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, that judgement applies to the front page, not merely to the editorial page. Considering that
Half the truth is often a great lie. - Benjamin Franklinit is absurd to think that news can be objective, even with the best of intentions. The First Amemdment presumes a public which understands thatThe wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing . . .The bias of "objective" journalism is its presumption that it can promote journalism above the provision of food, clothing, shelter, security, and fuel and yet be "unbiased." In fact of course,
It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. - Adam Smith"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt
I'm not sure what you took from the excerpt but Frank's overall point is almost identical to yours: That the "counterculture" was very much a creation and tool of the very establishment it pretended to oppose. He traces its roots to advertising strategies concocted at Doyle Dane Bernbach in the late 50s, especially the "illusion of distinction." This would be history except that Frank also documents the continued dominance of this fraudulent 60s counterculture in the internal culture of the media industry to this day. There are some striking examples in the book. One is an ad from about 1971. It has a stereotyped black radical; giant afro, tie-dyed bell-bottoms, dashiki, mirror-shades; punching his fist in the air and declaring, "The man don't control our music no more!" The ad is for CBS Records, "the man" himself by any reasonable standard. There is also a ridiculous outburst of radical rhetoric from a Nike ad executive circa 1990, along the lines of "what is the purpose of these ads if not to incite people to riot?" This was about the time Nike used "beat generation" drug advocate William Burroughs in its ads, an utterly bizarre juxtaposition when we remember that the product is nominally an athletic shoe. My summary of Frank's work: The "left" as we know it today is little more than an advertising gimmick run amok.
I took nothing at all from the excerpt; I found the prose impenetrable.It is patent that nobody but the establishment can possibly get away with the presumption of objectivity. Objectivity is simply a code word for wisdom. Journalists claim that everyone who agreees with them is virtuous and wise, and those whom they criticise - those who provide our necessities of security, food, clothing, shelter, fuel, and so forth (represented more or less faithfully by the Republican Party) are stupid and evil.
With all respect to your intended meaning, I have trouble with that language:
- MSM - "mainstream media" - is to me a woefully miscast expression:
- "media" is a plural noun, and you are talking about a singular phenomenon - "the media" are all of one accord to such an extent that no one supposes htat ABC or NBC is willing to contradict CBS - or The New York Times, etc.
- although fictional movies and TV shows clearly manifest the same perspective that Big Journalism does, the legitimate subject of criticism actually is the tendentious partisanship of so-called "objective" journalism.
- "self loathing whites" is an expression I loathe to hear Rush using. After all, the borg of "liberals" (synonyms: "progressives," "moderates," or "centrists" or - except in that the usage only is applied to journalism - "objective") is nothing if not arrogant. The very last thing they are is "self-loathing" or "guilty" feeling. They intentionally cause that confusion by the use of the non-inclusive "we." They heap calumny on "we" without the slightest implication that they hold themselves at all responsible for what "we" have done or plan to do.
Just as the "liberals" / "progressives" / "moderates" / "centrists" / "objective journalists" are all Newspeak for "us good guys," "we" or "us" are Newspeak codes for "you bad guys." Right along with "conservatives" or "right wingers" - or the now-obsolete old-time favorite, "right wing cold warriors."
Reply #1198 came from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1772183/posts?page=28#28
in reality, ensuring truthfulness is far easier than securing fairness. In fact, how could the latter possibly be achieved? After all, media bias lies not just in how news is reported but also in what they choose to report on in the first place. Why do they decide to focus on sex-discrimination in the construction industry instead of transgressions by abortionists? Why Abu Ghraib instead of the oil-for-food scandal? Why that which helps or harms one cause but not another?
The perspective of journalism is what they do not say, much more than in what they do say. And the fact that what they do say may in fact represent the most exciting things that happened recently does not prove that story selection does not have a strong political tendency.Half the truth is often a great lie. - Benjamin FranklinThe Barker and the Shill: The Fraud of the Fairness Doctrine
AmericanThinker.com | January 24, 2007 | Selwyn Duke
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