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" We Were Soldiers" IA DRANG Battle in Viet Nam
Icon Productions and the book ", We Were Soldiers Once.. and Young" | Lt. Col. Hal Moore

Posted on 09/07/2001 12:51:59 AM PDT by Snow Bunny

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To: Snow Bunny
You are very welcome.
202 posted on 09/08/2001 7:22:14 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: Mustang
>>Ironic isn't it, that an Aussie like Mel Gibson <<

Gibson is and always has been a American citizen. He was born in New York (I THINK),and his family emigrated to Australia when he was about 14. Ironically enough,it is said one of the reasons his father chose to immigrate to Australia was his objection to the US involvement in the VN war,and to keep Gibson from being drafted.

203 posted on 09/08/2001 7:44:04 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Snow Bunny
Bumping for another day
204 posted on 09/09/2001 12:14:36 AM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: WileyCoyote22
Thank you so much. I am so glad you came to the thread.
205 posted on 09/09/2001 12:23:31 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: JudyB1938
Thanks JudyB1938. I appreciate it.
206 posted on 09/09/2001 12:26:34 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: To All
Congress to allow normal trade relations with Viet Nam WITHOUT full account of POW/MIA's
207 posted on 09/09/2001 5:49:20 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Lexington Green, Aloha Ronnie, Others Interested
Let me clarify a few items.

First, I believe that I mentioned there may be SOME Hollywoodizing of the events and that the movie might vary from the book. Randall Wallace in his open letter to the veterans tried to communicate that as well in his letter which I posted below and which can be found at

www.lzxray.com/movie_news.htm

Yet, even while I may grant that certain events MAY BE hollywoodized the heart of the movie and a good majority of the information in it stays solid.

Lexington, you simply have to remember this movie is not intended as a documentary --- nor is it a word-for-word, moment-by-moment, act-by-act review of the events --- nor is it a historical record intended for study in history classes (except where they want to capture a different than traditional hollywood view of the heart of the soldiers). It is I believe Randall Wallaces' intent to capture both the heart of the action and the events in such a way as to be entertaining while bringing honor to the veterans. Here is the open Letter from Randy Wallace, the Screenwriter and Director, about the film:

Randall Wallace
7 February 2001

To all men who fought in the Ia Drang Valley, November 1965, and their families.

Gentlemen,

As many of you have already heard, we are preparing to make a film version of Hal Moore and Joe Galloway's book WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...AND YOUNG.

I am the writer of the screenplay for the film, and also the director. Mel Gibson is set to play the lead role as Lt. Col. Moore, and Mel's company, Icon, and mine, The Wheelhouse, are producing the film, in association with Paramount Pictures.

As you can imagine, this is an enormously ambitious undertaking. As the prologue of Hal and Joe's landmark book states, "Hollywood has gotten the story of the Vietnam veteran wrong every damn time, whetting the knives of twisted politics on the bones of our dead brothers."

Well this time we mean to get it right.

Whether we achieve that goal will be judged by many people: a worldwide audience; a collection of film critics; our families and friends; but most of all we will be judged by you whose lives were so personally intertwined with the events of the Ia Drang Valley.

For whatever success we achieve, there will be many people to thank; but blame for however we fall short will rest on my shoulders since I'm the director of the film and the one who first asked Hal and Joe to let me make this movie. I accept this responsibility; I welcome it; I'm deeply proud of their trust, and I hope to earn yours.

Therefore, I want to be up front with all of you. This film is not a documentary. The story of what happened in the Ia Drang Valley in 1965 has been documented in many ways already. What we are making now is a dramatization that sets out to do what those other ways of telling your story could not: to capture the subjective experience of that war. It is not meant to tell the story of each individual, or to capture the same kind of truth a documentary would.

This is not to say that any of us making the film are unconcerned with accuracy. Some of the finest film making talents in the world are involved with this production, and we are going to great length to capture the real experiences of you and your buddies and loved ones. The main difference in our approach and that of other media is that in making feature films, we are out to communicate on an emotional level, to communicate emotional truth. Most stories of Vietnam emphasize tragic dimensions, dimensions which are true. But there is more truth than just the tragedy, and this story celebrates the truth of love, loyalty, and heroism.

To tell the story of all, I must leave out the details of some. The book documents the heroism of many; the movie will focus on a few particular characters, and even those characters will be combinations of traits and actions that existed among many characters.

An example of this is the fact that the movie will focus on LZ X-Ray. The events of LZ Albany, its heroism and its tragedy, are alluded to, but are not the focus of the narrative of this movie. And even within the telling of the events of LZ X-Ray, the heroic acts of so many of you cannot be specifically detailed.

This is not because any of us lack reverence for your courage, or have any desire whatsoever to celebrate some and ignore others. It is simply the only effective way, in my judgment, to make a film that will communicate clearly and most powerfully the greater message that those who fought in Vietnam, and those who fought the emotional wars at home by loving and longing and grieving for those who fought, were heroes.

So that is our goal. From you who have already given so much, I ask more: I ask for your understanding, your faith, and your prayers.

And if you feel over-looked or slighted because your name or your particular acts of heroism are not specifically portrayed in this film, I ask your forgiveness.

But I will take what comes. I am inspired by your example, by you who gave your fullest measure of courage and commitment and have lived by the light of your own example.

I salute you.

Best regards,

Randall Wallace

208 posted on 09/10/2001 5:40:48 AM PDT by mdcrandall (mdcrandall@hotmail.com)
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To: Big Steve, deport, Irma, PhiKapMom,Wait4Truth,blackie, Deb
Did you see this?
209 posted on 09/10/2001 7:14:37 PM PDT by Lady In Blue
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To: sneakypete
Please pardon my late reply. I've been out & about sailing these last few days off the coast of Northeast Florida and away from my aging IBM Aptiva.

But, I must state; Your above #203 does not recognize what I clearly stated in my previous #198.

Mel Gibson IS an Aussie.

I will not use lazy terms, such as, "I Think" or "It is said", where he was born or what his father's motives may have been. I'll just reiterate the obvious. He's an Australian actor, director and producer with more balls than the present HollyWierd (read: indigenous leftist, socialist, marxist and effete) collective crowd could ever muster.

That's just my worldly and informed opinion.

Best FReegards.

210 posted on 09/10/2001 11:42:10 PM PDT by Mustang
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To: sneakypete,Mustang
RAISED in Australia from the age of 12, Mel Gibson was the sixth of his parents' eleven kids. His father, a brakeman for the New York Central Railroad, moved the family from the United States to his mother's native Sydney, Australia, for financial reasons (he sustained an on-the-job injury), but also to protect his older sons from the Vietnam draft.

http://mrshowbiz.go.com/celebrities/people/melgibson/bio.html

Real Name: Mel Columcille Gerard Gibson

Date of Birth: January 3, 1956

Place of Birth: Peekskill, N.Y., USA

211 posted on 09/10/2001 11:53:55 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Mustang
>>I will not use lazy terms, such as, "I Think" or "It is said", where he was born or what his father's motives may have been.<<

Maybe you should learn how to use these "lazy terms"? They make you look less foolish when you are wrong.

>>I'll just reiterate the obvious. He's an Australian actor, director and producer <<

It may be "obvious",but it's wrong.

>>That's just my worldly and informed opinion.<<

I wouldn't use the word "informed" in that sentence if I were you.

212 posted on 09/11/2001 2:28:47 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Snow Bunny
I found out about this movie a couple months ago but was waiting until some footage was on a website I could link to before I posted anything on it.

I didn't know anyone posted a thread on it until just know when I clicked on your name.

Thanks for posting it.

213 posted on 09/30/2001 7:19:17 PM PDT by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
I am so glad you you came to this thread and also posted to me. Thank you so much I really appreciate it.
214 posted on 09/30/2001 8:02:05 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Mudboy Slim
Bump
215 posted on 11/08/2001 6:34:10 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Excellent thread, my FRiend.

Can't wait for the movie to come out!!

FReegards...MUD

216 posted on 11/08/2001 6:55:04 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mustang; sneakypete
"Mel Gibson IS an Aussie."

IS NOT...MUD

217 posted on 11/08/2001 6:57:38 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
Thank you Mud. It was my first big thread with graphics etc. I am so glad you like it.
218 posted on 11/08/2001 7:47:00 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Thankyou againb for posting it Snow Bunny!
219 posted on 11/08/2001 7:49:39 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Mustang; Mudboy Slim
He was born in the USA, but Australia can still be proud of him too.

After making the Patriot Most American Patriots are damn sure proud of Gibson!

220 posted on 11/08/2001 7:55:22 PM PST by t-shirt
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