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Poll: In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
NBC News | Comcast ^ | November 28, 2025 | By Ben Kamisar

Posted on 11/28/2025 7:13:12 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Professors”, “Universities”?????
What could possibly be wrong???
Unless one is fully committed to follow through on a STEM program/degree, the rest of the crap “studies” in these joints are as useless as teats on a boar hog when it comes to becoming a functional, productive member of society.
And to think parents spend hard-earned money to send little Susie and little Johnny to the shiteholes to be indoctrinated into communism....


41 posted on 11/28/2025 9:00:07 AM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It would be cheaper to just get a frontal lobotomy. You can probably get it in a “bundle” package with your sex change fiasco.


42 posted on 11/28/2025 9:01:03 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Indiginous Indian Day is now gone with RATS trying to pass themselves off as Rockwell Americans.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

“No one has called me about whether I think a college degree is worth it but if they did I would say NO! “

What if they want to be a nuclear engineer?


43 posted on 11/28/2025 9:31:27 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: libstripper

I have never tried to use AI for that type of purpose, but all the models I have used seem to have varying degrees of accuracy when it comes to any subject and always need to be double checked at this point.


44 posted on 11/28/2025 9:33:37 AM PST by fireman15
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To: PeterPrinciple

“When you work for yourself

What percent of our working-age population works ror themselves?


45 posted on 11/28/2025 9:34:10 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I got all the way to retirement with an associate degree from a community college and I even took three years in the middle of my career for a mid life crisis and got another associate degree from a community college which I didn’t even use. It is at least brag worthy to tell people that I trained to be an RN but never worked a day in the field. I at least was smart enough to do the curriculum.


46 posted on 11/28/2025 9:36:17 AM PST by webheart (Notice how I said all of that without any hyphens, and only complete words? )
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To: kosciusko51

Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost”

Because it is not.


47 posted on 11/28/2025 9:37:30 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: stanne

I remember hearing over 30 years ago that a college professor’s retirement package had a payout value equal to around $3.5mm. So, professors griped about low pay during their careers and never mentioned the payoff at the end. They were simply forced into living like most everyone should during their earning years.


48 posted on 11/28/2025 9:41:19 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: gibsonguy

In some select cases, it still is. But for a vast majority, it is not.

And the high schools in the US have not served our students well. The reduction and outright elimination of Vo-Tech programs have reduced options even further.


49 posted on 11/28/2025 9:43:34 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Buttons12

“I studied business on Mama’s knee” Yeah, Dad taught me. He’d take me to lunches and golf rounds with his biz buddies and I would be like a sponge. Nobody mentioned biz until about the 5th hole. They would be scribbling on napkins at the 19th hole. Most deals got started on the golf course, at lunch or at the end of the Rotary Club meetings.


50 posted on 11/28/2025 9:48:14 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I graduated in ‘75 from UTA and teachers were already pushing Lefty crap.


51 posted on 11/28/2025 9:49:49 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
I graduated in ‘75 from UTA and teachers were already pushing Lefty crap.

Long march through the institutions

52 posted on 11/28/2025 9:51:17 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: GaltAdonis

I never got a W2. I always wanted to do my own thing, so lucky.


53 posted on 11/28/2025 9:54:02 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: TexasGator

“What if they want to be a nuclear engineer?”

That’s my genius brother-in-law. Nothing wrong with that either. He wanted to live in New Zealand but they turned him down. They said they didn’t need any nuclear fuel engineers. We got a kick out of that.


54 posted on 11/28/2025 9:59:39 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: fireman15
Here is how Grok replied, on this subject if anyone cares...

That still irks me to see Valentine Michael Smith's Martian word for "understanding in fullness" was kyped for a so called AI assimilation.

55 posted on 11/28/2025 10:18:19 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Conflation by the trash MSM. No. All lies. What is called into question is a liberal arts degree — from any Uni anywhere.

STEM degrees are still valued.


56 posted on 11/28/2025 10:23:43 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Many, many moons ago, I had a few minutes to peruse the List Of College Degrees in San Francisco, Kalifornia.

One college degree title stood out amongst the rest: Leisure Studies.

Now, I was born with a very strong work ethic. Also had the wonderful example of two parents who were the same. The idea of Leisure Studies was at the same time enticing and revolting. The phrase “Rome did not get built in a day” is so appropriate. Get up every day and do something. Eventually, you will have something of worth.

On a recent Victor Davis Hanson podcast, he gave the example of the college graduate with a large student loan bill, and not much work available with his “degree.” The college grad had a plumber come to his home. The plumber was a young 30 year old, making $80,000 year. No college degree. No massive debt. Yes, the plumber went through apprenticeship, but he was being $$-paid-$$ the entire time.

I just thought of one of the best parts of Robert Heinlein’s epic novel Time Enough For Love. In the book there is the short story of The Tale of the Man Who Was Too Lazy to Fail.


57 posted on 11/28/2025 10:24:16 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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To: libstripper; All

I would like to know that my doctor has a medical degree. Bubba with a scalpel would be frightening.


58 posted on 11/28/2025 10:44:08 AM PST by Cobra64 (ECommon sense isn’t common anymore. )
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To: fireman15

Totally true, just like GPS


59 posted on 11/28/2025 11:04:56 AM PST by libstripper
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To: cymbeline

What percent of our working-age population works ror themselves?


Not enough. But there is background activity to encourage more of this. Trumps tax plan has some self employment aspects.

In correct thinking, you are aways personal services incorporated, you are not an employee......................


60 posted on 11/28/2025 11:05:17 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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