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China could sink entire US carrier fleet in 20 minutes, Pentagon chief warns
Yahoo News ^ | April 14, 2025 | Kapil Kajal

Posted on 04/16/2025 5:02:05 PM PDT by McGruff

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To: central_va

I agree. But keep in mind that the main benefit for having nuclear propulsion on carriers is that they can then carry twice the load of aviation fuel of a conventional carrier.


201 posted on 04/18/2025 3:16:55 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: OA5599
A CV can do everything a CVN can do at about half the cost. The nuclear surface ship concept is a bad thing. It needs to go away.
202 posted on 04/18/2025 3:26:58 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Everything except only having half the endurance. But I don’t dispute your main point. In fact, as broke as this country is, we should probably move away from carriers in general, nuclear or not. As the original post states, they will be neutralized rather quickly in a peer on peer war, so why do we keep building them? (MIC needs?) Might as well build a few battleships while we’re at it.


203 posted on 04/18/2025 4:12:23 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: OA5599
As the original post states, they will be neutralized rather quickly in a peer on peer war,

In a sneak attack the forward deployed carrier groups are in danger but not the bulk of the fleet. You only get one sneak attack per war.

204 posted on 04/18/2025 4:25:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: roadcat

Considering how deeply China has penetrated this country betting they already have the technology.


205 posted on 04/18/2025 4:29:19 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: central_va
They are called torpedoes.

Nope. Fully autonomous, AI-controlled missiles that avoid natural obstacles and enemy ordinance alike, survive electronic jamming efforts, and then use complex AI learning to locate, attack, and destroy their intended target by guiding themselves to hit below the waterline, launched from hundreds of miles away. Not a torpedo, but missiles launched by air, ground or sea. The intent is to blow a ship out of the water with a single hit by breaking it into two in order to sink it.

206 posted on 04/18/2025 10:52:10 AM PDT by roadcat ( )
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To: roving

Taking out the Three Gorges Dam likely would be a war crime due to the collateral damage.


207 posted on 04/18/2025 11:08:16 AM PDT by damper99
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To: damper99

It’s strategic as it powers the whole country including major mil;itary assetts. A Chinese EMP nuke could do the same to our country..assuming they could place it just right but I don’t think they are worried about Civilian war crimes caused by those. It might be possible to emp the dam to destroy its power generating capacity but since the turbines and generator are well grounded...it probably wouldn’t work other than the frying the out door transformers and transmission wires.


208 posted on 04/18/2025 11:13:15 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: central_va

https://www.twz.com/air/cheap-cruise-missile-paired-with-affordable-seeker-from-ship-killing-smart-bomb-eyed-by-usaf

This article alludes to research by the US Navy hoping to have smart missiles down to a $50,000 price tag, instead of the millions of dollars for existing JDAM torpedos used to kill ships. Especially if a war occurs with China. If this info is public, then we don’t know how far beyond these Quicksink demos are in progress.


209 posted on 04/18/2025 11:16:13 AM PDT by roadcat ( )
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BUT.. will their sailors be able to identify toxic masculinity and memorize the latest list of pronouns.


210 posted on 04/18/2025 11:16:32 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: roadcat
Not a torpedo, but missiles launched by air, ground or sea.

That's the hard part, getting the launch platform near the CVBG undetected.

211 posted on 04/18/2025 1:25:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: gw-ington

No.

I shouldn’t have said between, I should have said above.


212 posted on 04/19/2025 12:35:28 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith
I shouldn’t have said between, I should have said above.

We should read "above" the lines? I've never heard of that expression. Everyone's heard of the expression, Read between the lines. But what does "Read above the lines" mean?

213 posted on 04/23/2025 9:40:51 AM PDT by gw-ington (Riding the Trump Tariff Train ..........)
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To: gw-ington

It means look at context, from a global perspective to a local.

It also refers to the importance of means, methods, strategies and philosophies for communication.


214 posted on 04/23/2025 12:20:48 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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