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LA Fires Renew Debate Over Prescribed Burns and Fire Preparedness in California
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Posted on 01/11/2025 9:48:17 PM PST by TigerClaws

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No controlled burns.

No fire lines.

No dikes but plenty of dykes.

1 posted on 01/11/2025 9:48:17 PM PST by TigerClaws
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I have lived in the west San Fernando Valley of California for 57 years. The fires started getting more destructive as soon as they prohibited the use of cattle and goats along the 101 and 405 days, to keep the brush down. There is more to this then meets the eye. You can take that to the bank! Infuriating!


2 posted on 01/11/2025 9:52:15 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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Prescribed fire is one of the best tools California has to prevent forest fires from exploding out of control.

They "forgot" grazing and browsing. Guess they don't want to remind people that those conservative ranchers the greenies and bureaucrats got rid of were at least partly right.

3 posted on 01/11/2025 9:53:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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"LA Fires Renew Debate Over Prescribed Burns and Fire Preparedness in California"

Ya think?

4 posted on 01/11/2025 9:56:25 PM PST by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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To: TigerClaws

LOL.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4289574/posts


5 posted on 01/11/2025 10:01:09 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: TigerClaws

Well, yes, sure, but...
You can not do a controlled burn in an urban area.


6 posted on 01/11/2025 10:03:40 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: TigerClaws

Bulldoze that perverted state into the Pacific.


7 posted on 01/11/2025 10:14:22 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Not su)
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To: TigerClaws

It’s a debate.


8 posted on 01/11/2025 11:09:24 PM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Carry_Okie

Maybe they should just let some wild free roaming goats go around and clean up.


9 posted on 01/12/2025 12:34:33 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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The idea of using the word preparedness in relation to anything in Kalifornia, except stuffing ballot boxes, is ridiculous.


10 posted on 01/12/2025 2:08:05 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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Not much of a debate to be had. Every other state uses forest management techniques to reduce the amount of fuel on the forest floor on publicly owned property, including controlled burns. Private timber companies are not over regulated so they can thin the forests to reduce the amount
of fuel on the forest floor. These programs seem to work well for every other state.

Our power company has routine non-stop clearing near power lines from one end of the county and back to the other. They come by my driveway about twice a year and the company even has their own lock on my gate should they need to follow the line onto my property to trim any trees.

About 10 days ago, we had two days of 25 to 35 mile per hour winds (with gusts up to 40) in Georgia. I haven’t heard of any forest fires occurring during those 2 days.


11 posted on 01/12/2025 2:21:06 AM PST by CFW
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

RENEWED DEBATE? #$@#!@#@#$#$###


12 posted on 01/12/2025 3:15:30 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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Soon the left will pretend that they were for prescribed burns and brush clearing all along and the right was on the wrong side because the parties switched sides or whatever. Just like they claim about slavery and everything else.


13 posted on 01/12/2025 4:07:27 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: TigerClaws

Article:

“as climate change gets worse”

Wild speculation based on zero evidence.

This is the state of “journalism” today and why they cannot be trusted.


14 posted on 01/12/2025 4:17:10 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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The Sierra will never give their permission to do burns again, they spent millions getting them stopped and keeping the Forests in their natural state without human intervention. They Will NOT give that up for any reason.


15 posted on 01/12/2025 4:43:56 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: TigerClaws

Sierra Club, sometimes I get ahead of myself,oops


16 posted on 01/12/2025 4:45:52 AM PST by eyeamok
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“Debate”? There’s some debate somewhere over the wisdom and efficacy of clearing fire breaks, keeping a little extra water around, doing preventative burns and clearing brush? Where is this “debate” and are these debaters fecking stupid?


17 posted on 01/12/2025 5:04:35 AM PST by TalBlack (Time to use the Law and the Power. Good luck Mr. President.)
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To: TigerClaws

Qui bono suggests we may have been seeing a massive set of “prescribed burns” in LA County.


18 posted on 01/12/2025 5:22:10 AM PST by arthurus (covfefe ; .,)
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LA locals complained about “the smell” from burns, so I hear. Plus, “air quality” issues.

Also, all the regulations as to emissions and ‘green’... how much CO2 is generated by the wildfires? They kinda blew it there.

Here’s a handy map today for those tracking the fires. HEAVY winds. Palisades fire has 11% “containment” and is near Brentwood, Encino, and not far from West Hollywood.

Beverly Hills would be after West Hollywood but there’s a lot of cement to get to Beverly Hills.

If they have to ground the air battle... heavy winds... gonna be a long day!

Link:

https://www.frontlinewildfire.com/california-wildfire-map/


19 posted on 01/12/2025 5:31:53 AM PST by TigerClaws
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I watched the Weather Channel report last night on the fires. they had several on who said the problem was “CLIMATE CHANGE! CLIMATE CHANGE! CLIMATE CHANGE!”
No mention of the incompetence of the mayor, governor or failure of the fire suppression system.

California is known for wildfires. Here is one from the 1830s. With all the fires there in my lifetime you would think they had learned preparedness by now.

http://www.authorama.com/two-years-before-the-mast-12.html

In the middle of this crescent, directly opposite the anchoring ground, lie the mission and town of Santa Barbara, on a low, flat plain, but little above the level of the sea,........

The town is certainly finely situated, with a bay in front, and an amphitheatre of hills behind. The only thing which diminishes its beauty is, that the hills have no large trees upon them, they having been all burnt by a great fire which swept them off about a dozen years before, and they had not yet grown up again. The fire was described to me by an inhabitant, as having been a very terrible and magnificent sight. The air of the whole valley was so heated that the people were obliged to leave the town and take up their quarters for several days upon the beach.


20 posted on 01/12/2025 6:00:07 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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