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Syrian rebels capture key city of Hama in fresh blow to Assad
Reuters ^ | December 5, 2024 | Suleiman Al-Khalidi and Timour Azhari

Posted on 12/05/2024 6:33:28 AM PST by MinorityRepublican

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To: Paul R.; MinorityRepublican

“Apparently the vaunted(?) Russian air support has been insufficient.”

They are a shadow of what they were the last time, due to the losses and overuse in Ukraine.

Besides the huge overcommitment in Ukraine, they are running short on some tactical aircraft across their whole fleet, like the Su-24 and Su-25. Remaining airframes have had a huge amount of operational hours put on them. Spare parts, replacement engines and support equipment have all been used up or their inventories badly strained. Pilot losses have been high, the lead time to train new pilots is long, and they are still not as good as the more experienced ones that have been lost.

Russia just does not have the same kind or quality of Army or Air Force, that they had before the full scale invasion of Ukraine. They have been stripping their forces in Syria for quite some time, to support operations in Ukraine.


21 posted on 12/05/2024 12:42:02 PM PST by BeauBo ( )
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To: Paul R.; MinorityRepublican

“Apparently the vaunted(?) Russian air support has been insufficient.”

They are a shadow of what they were the last time, due to the losses and overuse in Ukraine.

Besides the huge overcommitment in Ukraine, they are running short on some tactical aircraft across their whole fleet, like the Su-24 and Su-25. Remaining airframes have had a huge amount of operational hours put on them. Spare parts, replacement engines and support equipment have all been used up or their inventories badly strained. Pilot losses have been high, the lead time to train new pilots is long, and they are still not as good as the more experienced ones that have been lost.

Russia just does not have the same kind or quality of Army or Air Force, that they had before the full scale invasion of Ukraine. They have been stripping their forces in Syria for quite some time, to support operations in Ukraine.


22 posted on 12/05/2024 12:42:02 PM PST by BeauBo ( )
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Israeli intelligence sees growing chance Assad's forces collapse in Syria
23 posted on 12/05/2024 12:48:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: katana

“The coming massacre of the minorities, Kurds, Christians of different stripes, Alawites, Druze, etc.”

With Saudi/Wahabbi/Hanbali inspired al Queda and ISIS extremists, that is a very real risk, especially for Shi’ites. Under the more moderate Hanafi school of Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh) of the Ottoman Empire; Christians, Jews, Alawites and Druze were tolerated and allowed a significant degree of freedom and prosperity. The Hanbali Fiqh of the Wahabbis lead to long periods in history where adherents of other views were simply slaughtered.

Although promoting a kind of restoral of the Ottoman Empire, Erdogan has also been a big supporter of the more extremist interpretations - probably for the same reason that the Saudi rulers did, because they make great fanatical shock troops.

The map in post #16 shows something interesting - one red arrow of advance against the surging Sunni rebel forces, by the Kurdish forces in the yellow area.

The other minority communities in Syria are subordinate to the Syrian regime, and not well organized to put up a fight outside of the State structure. But the Kurds are already administering their own territory and operating their own Military and Intelligence Services.

If the Turkish-backed Sunni forces capture Damascus and the National Government, the US-backed Kurds might be their next concern.


24 posted on 12/05/2024 1:06:57 PM PST by BeauBo ( )
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“The Hanbali Fiqh of the Wahabbis”

Oops, that should be the Hanafi Fiqh of the Wahabbis.

But as I must acknowledge, the Ottomans, even with more tolerant rules in theory than the Saudi/Wahabbis, still occasionally conducted genocidal repressions of minorities, like the Armenian Genocide, and the massive oppression of Greek Christians, as well as massacres of Shi’ites.


25 posted on 12/05/2024 1:15:47 PM PST by BeauBo ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Next on their list, Free Palestine.


26 posted on 12/05/2024 1:17:05 PM PST by McGruff (Where's Biden?)
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To: BeauBo
The other minority communities in Syria are subordinate to the Syrian regime, and not well organized to put up a fight outside of the State structure. But the Kurds are already administering their own territory and operating their own Military and Intelligence Services.

If the Syrian government collapses, I'll expect the Alawites and the Christians to form militas on the coast to protect their sects from Islamists.

It's likely that Russia will protect them, if it's just to keep access to their naval base in Syria.

27 posted on 12/05/2024 2:11:47 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Could Syria’s rebels take Damascus?
28 posted on 12/05/2024 2:57:05 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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There were some pretty impressive numbers being bandied about by pro-Russian posters on various platforms, about numbers of sorties Russian air support was doling out earlier this week, claims Aleppo was going to be a trap / kill zone, etc., but, so far, the rebels are still advancing...

A question would be whether Russia needs all the fighter jets possible, in Western Russia, to defend against missiles launched by the Ukies? So far, the vids make it very clear most of the Storm Shadows and ATACMS are reaching their targets. That leaves the Russian bombers for duty over or around Syria, but, those bombers have been used to launch standoff munitions at Ukraine, best results (for Russia) seeming to occur when Russia sends up a lot of planes to launch mass missile attacks to overwhelm Ukie AD.


29 posted on 12/05/2024 3:27:22 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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Syrian Troops Reportedly Thwart Rebel Advance Near Russian Air Base
30 posted on 12/05/2024 6:25:54 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Tens of thousands of members of President Bashar al-Assad’s Alawite minority community were fleeing Syria’s third city Homs Thursday, for fear that Islamist-led rebels would keep up their advance, a war monitor said.
31 posted on 12/05/2024 6:58:07 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Same source that @ your link says the rebels retreated from Hama says Hama has now been taken.

https://www.rferl.org/a/syria-hama-capture-game-changer/33228913.html

I assume the Russians and Syrians can at least defend the airbase for a while.


32 posted on 12/06/2024 1:36:47 AM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Very interesting article. Unsaid is the possibility of Syria being split in 3.


33 posted on 12/06/2024 2:04:01 AM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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