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WWII historian rips Tucker Carlson guest who trashed 'villain' Churchill: 'Complete rubbish'
Christian Post ^ | 09/13/2024

Posted on 09/13/2024 6:56:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Reily

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Perhaps Churchill and the crown could have done things differently to keep the Empire. Perhaps not. Accepting a peace offer from Hitler would have delayed it a bit, but still would result in a continental power being able to take on the UK. That was a direct violation of their long standing policy.

Japan’s propaganda was making holding on to India an issue, and this was before the violence that lead to the split. At best they could have done what France did, and have a soft empire. But there were forces spinning it off fast enough it was not going to last


61 posted on 09/13/2024 10:16:33 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: redgolum

Agree!


62 posted on 09/13/2024 10:22:33 AM PDT by Reily
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To: dfwgator

If you would listen to the podcast, the historian talked about the book he wrote about the history of Zionism prior to 1948. He said initially he read 6 books and then pontificated on the subject. Then he read 80 books and 1300 papers on the subject and thought how ignorant he was earlier.

I am ambivalent towards they guy, and I don’t think he implied the Nazis are nice people. But he is interesting and does present an informed point of view. He acknowleged it is not possible to criticize Churchill without a massive pushback.

Please listen to the first 30 minutes of the interview.


63 posted on 09/13/2024 11:13:13 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( @whoisourPresident)
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To: nitzy

If you watch the Piers Morgon interview, he does. This is an article about that interview.


64 posted on 09/13/2024 11:20:09 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: wardaddy; Fiji Hill

“Pelham thinks I’m soft on VDH and Cooper lol”

Yup. Guilty.

Cooper is either incredibly ignorant about Nazi ideology or he’s trying to deceive people.

Hitler didn’t hide his intentions, he announced most of it in Mein Kampf back in 1925 fourteen years before igniting the war.

If Tucker had ever read Shirer’s The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich he wouldn’t fall for a clown like Cooper.

VDH... in my view VDH is vastly overrated. Some writers at Chronicles magazine exposed VDH as a mediocre historian years ago by focusing on errors in his knowledge of ancient Greek history which is what his degree is in. And his ideas of America history are recycled Harry Jaffa proposition nation manure. (Am I being too harsh? No. That stuff is the enemy of anything resembling MAGA.)

If you listed conservative historians worth reading he simply wouldn’t be on my list. Some who are: Forrest McDonald. Russell Kirk. M.E. Bradford. Thomas Fleming. Bernard Bailyn. David Hackett Fischer. Clyde Wilson.


65 posted on 09/13/2024 11:38:53 AM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: SeekAndFind
I bashed Tucker already for this, and it's enough. He was dumb to let this guy get on and not challenge him.

He stepped in it by doing so and everyone has beaten him up and it's also enough.

Tucker just has to fill a news hole and it is a big one. Once in a while he gets a clinker.

66 posted on 09/13/2024 2:20:58 PM PDT by caddie
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To: nitzy

You can’t look at WW2 and say, “That ended up having the best possible outcome.”

True but that is a lot short of showing that Churchill was to blame.


67 posted on 09/13/2024 2:54:32 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Stingray51

I used to be a Tucker fan. He went off the rails when Covid started. Night after night he’d talk about conspiracy theories. It wasn’t easy to watch 20 or 30 shows talking about how bad masks were. One would have been sufficient.


68 posted on 09/13/2024 2:58:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Fair enough. I am not a regular watcher.


69 posted on 09/13/2024 5:22:11 PM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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To: The_Media_never_lie

>I am ambivalent towards they guy, and I don’t think he implied the Nazis are nice people.

I remember him specifically saying they were not.


70 posted on 09/14/2024 4:22:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Fiji Hill; wardaddy

WWI was our first bite of the apple at engaging in a big foreign war outside of our immediate neighborhood.

And that’s going to be popular with neocons and other Pax Americana fans.

Other than that we lost two fights to mighty Canada, won a big fight with Mexico, and won kind of a global fight with Spain.

Maybe that war with Spain over Cuba should be when we decided to become an empire instead of a republic. I think there was a big controversy over that at the time.


71 posted on 09/14/2024 3:09:08 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

Tell us more about the two lost fights to Canada...


72 posted on 09/14/2024 3:12:26 PM PDT by OKSooner (Domestic animals for Trump.)
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To: dfwgator

The only world leader who read “Mein Kampf” was Winston Churchill and realized what a total psycho they were dealing with.


73 posted on 09/14/2024 3:17:40 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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To: OKSooner

1812 and during the Revolution. We invaded twice and mighty Canada sent us packing both times.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/revolutionary-war/battles/quebec

https://www.history.army.mil/html/reference/army_flag/1812.html#canada


74 posted on 09/14/2024 3:48:52 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: dfwgator

One of my favorite movies.


75 posted on 09/14/2024 4:06:24 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant (“They recognized Him in the breaking of the Bread”)
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To: Pelham; OKSooner

Canada is actually our worst enemy because we fought six wars with it: the War of the League of Augsburg, aka the Nine Years War (1688-1697), the War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714), the War of the Austrian Succession (1740-1748), the Third Silesian War, aka the Franch and Indian War (1754-1763), the War of the American Revolution and the War of 1812.

However, in four of those wars, we were English and Canada was French, and in the other two, Canada was English.


76 posted on 09/14/2024 5:49:53 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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