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Singer Isaac Hayes’ Family Threatens to Sue Trump for Millions over Rally Song Use
Breitbart ^ | 08/12/2024 | Simon Kent

Posted on 08/12/2024 6:46:18 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

what happened to the Christian bakers who had to bake a repugnant cake?

Same idea. If the royalties are paid, you don’t get to decide.

What’s good for the goose.....


21 posted on 08/12/2024 6:59:50 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I don’t think it’s as easy as saying you can’t use it if you’re paying bmi or ascap

Some rock band bitched a few years ago but now say they are happy for the money

Forget who


22 posted on 08/12/2024 6:59:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (Thank you God for saving president Trump from murder)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This happens every cycle

Nothing new here other than the song name and artist name


23 posted on 08/12/2024 7:00:41 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: butlerweave
Of course, you can depend on Breitbart to give superficial treatment to any story, so, no, they don't bother to find out who actually owns the rights. A two minute web search, obviously beyond the capabilities of any media type, produced the following:

NEW YORK, NY (October 5, 2023) – Primary Wave Music, the leading independent publisher of iconic and legendary music in the world, announces today their partnership with the estate of the legendary singer, actor, songwriter, and composer Isaac Hayes. Terms of the deal will see Primary Wave administer various publishing interests of the award-winner’s estate. In addition, the partnership will grant the dynamic publisher the opportunity to market Isaac’s name, image, and likeness.

When you sell something, you no longer control what is done with it.

24 posted on 08/12/2024 7:01:29 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I don’t think they have a case, Trump is not using it for commercial purposes.


25 posted on 08/12/2024 7:01:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Settle out of court for $2 s play ..so,$10.


26 posted on 08/12/2024 7:03:31 AM PDT by Leep (Walz oozes weird. And not the good kind of weird.)
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To: butlerweave

“Do they hold the rights to the songs?”

Odds are no.

The way music publishing worked in Issac Hayes’ day:

1. The song’s author would sell 100% of the rights to the song to a music publisher.

2. In return, the author would get a percentage of all publishing income from the song (usually 50%) in perpetuity.

It was a terrible system, designed to rip off the songwriters, but it was the system.

It’s the reason in the late 60’s large artists (The Beatles, Led Zepplin, and such) formed their own publishing companies. So they wouldn’t have to give away their rights (and 50% of their income) to a third party.

Unless Issac Hayes has purchased back the rights to his song catalog (which many artists have done) odds are he doesn’t own the right and they are administered through a 3rd party.

Unless that 3rd party (who is the actual owner of the rights) objects, Trump is in the clear.

Trump has been through this rodeo before with artists refusing to allow him to use their songs. It’s likely they licensed the song through the normal processes.


27 posted on 08/12/2024 7:03:45 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism; don't forget that the next time you vote.)
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To: dfwgator

‘At least Chrissie Hynde let Rush use “My City Was Gone”.’

That’s because her dad was a big Rush Limbaugh fan.


28 posted on 08/12/2024 7:05:21 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism; don't forget that the next time you vote.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is there anything actually more irritating that the overpaid creative lemmings of our modern culture and their uninformed emotive need to be heard?

Perhaps other than our obsession over them lol


29 posted on 08/12/2024 7:05:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (Thank you God for saving president Trump from murder)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Fair use. They only play a small sample.


30 posted on 08/12/2024 7:06:59 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Trump has been playing this song for a long time. The timing of this suggests to me that this might be the Democrat lawyers after a campaign meeting contacing family.


31 posted on 08/12/2024 7:08:36 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Artists don’t have the right to say who uses their song. If they sold the rights for a public air play, he can use it all he wants.


32 posted on 08/12/2024 7:08:37 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Brookhaven
‘At least Chrissie Hynde let Rush use “My City Was Gone”.’ That’s because her dad was a big Rush Limbaugh fan.

I think RUSh paid something for using the song, not sure if details were ever released. His comment led to Hynde enforcing her rights, but even then she offered a middle ground: No action would result from his breach of licensing if he forwarded all due royalties to the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals campaign. She explained: “In light of Rush Limbaugh's vocal support of PETA's campaign against the Environmental Protection Agency's foolish plan to test some 3,000 chemicals on animals, I have decided to allow him to keep my song 'My City Was Gone' as his signature tune and to donate all proceeds from the deal to further PETA's efforts in that regard.” The amount was reported to be $100,000 at the time. Read More: When Chrissie Hynde Gave $100k of Rush Limbaugh’s Money to PETA | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/chrissie-hynde-rush-limbaugh/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

33 posted on 08/12/2024 7:09:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

@ChrissieHynde
An open Letter to
@realDonaldTrump
, President of the United States.

Dear Mr. President,

I often think of how much my father, Melville “Bud” Hynde, who proudly served his country as a Marine on Guadalcanal, would have enjoyed your Presidency. [p1.]
8:28 AM · Feb 17, 2020


34 posted on 08/12/2024 7:10:43 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: HamiltonJay

Yes this does seem to happen in every election cycle.

And it seems that it’s always the complaints about Republicans using music.,,There are never complaints about Democrats using music


35 posted on 08/12/2024 7:13:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I found this on the ASCAP website:

IF THE CAMPAIGN EVENTS ARE PROPERLY LICENSED, CAN THE CAMPAIGN STILL BE CRITICIZED OR EVEN SUED BY AN ARTIST FOR PLAYING HIS OR HER SONG AT AN EVENT?

Yes. If an artist is concerned that their music has been associated with a political campaign, he or she may be able to take legal action even if the campaign has the appropriate performance licenses. The campaign could potentially be in violation of other laws. Specifically, the campaign could be subject to claims based on:

1. The artist’s Right of Publicity, which in many states provides image protection for famous people or artists.

2. The Lanham Act, which covers confusion or dilution of a trademark (such as a band or artist name) through its unauthorized use.

3. False Endorsement, where use of the artist’s identifying work implies that the artist supports a product or candidate.

As a general rule, a campaign should be aware that, in most cases, the more closely a song is tied to the “image” or message of the campaign, the more likely it is that the recording artist or songwriter of the song could object to the song’s usage by the campaign.


36 posted on 08/12/2024 7:16:02 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Him singing it is all over youtube and they’re making money off it. But orange man is bad.


37 posted on 08/12/2024 7:20:38 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ChicagoConservative27
They can sue, but they're going to learn just like other artists who tried that the Trump Campaign has an ASCAP license, and is allowed to play any ASCAP-licensed music.

If the family wants to stop Trump from playing the song, they have to withdraw it from the ASCAP licensing system, which will also end all radio airplay of the song.

38 posted on 08/12/2024 7:21:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: From The Deer Stand

They are fine with K’s family owning 1120 slaves. Trump’s family didn’t own any.


39 posted on 08/12/2024 7:23:36 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Same old s#!t every election year, If the song can be licensed and sold for profit, anyone can use it.


40 posted on 08/12/2024 7:27:41 AM PDT by pfflier
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