Forever War: Zelensky, Western Leaders Reject Putin Ceasefire Proposals at Swiss Peace Summit

Breitbart ^ | 06/16/2024 | Kurt Zindulka

[Singermom]

Why does Israel have to have a “cease fire” but Ukraine and Russia do not? And Russia/Ukraine war has been going on for YEARS now and no one seems to want a ceasefire for them.

Could it be because the money WE give Ukraine gets “LAUNDERED” and sent back to the dems?

[Paladin2]

The Ukes should ask for their Nukes back.

[Neanderthal]

This offer was Ukraine’s last chance to save Odessa. It will be back in Russia when this is over.

[laplata]

Biden and Obama and the Globalists love your kind.

[tlozo]

They said the same regarding Russia’s prior proposal in March 2022 (where Russia would give back everything except Crimea, which would then be discussed). Now they’ll do ANYTHING to get that back...

LOL, you forgot to mention Putin's other demands, Ukraine disarm, never join NATO, de-nazify, Russian language gets official status...

Which I'm sure would have guaranteed Ukraine's future independence.

So no, Ukraine doesn't want that crappy deal

[tlozo]

OR, Americans could refuse to prostitute America to Nazis like Ukraine.

Yup crazy Ukraine nazis fighting to the death to defend a Jewish Ukraine President. Okay

Nazis are recognized by their actions, tell me, who has behaved more like nazis in Ukraine, than the ruZZians?

[rdcbn1]

Great meme dude - looks like you put a lot of effort into that one.

Ain’t happening - this is the real world.

[Jan_Sobieski]

A Russian steals $100 from you. You confront him about it. He hands back a $20 and says “See, I made a concession”.

Nah…analogy falls short. Here’s a better one...

The neighbors’ houses in the HOA next to you (Russia) are taken over by murderous revolutionaries (Euromaiden Revolution). A couple of the houses that border your property decided to leave the HOA (Donetsk, Luhansk, Crimea). The murderous revolutionaries began killing the people of the houses that have left the HOA. You begin protecting the houses who border your land and go after the revolutionaries killing your bordering neighbors

[tlozo]

Ain’t happening - this is the real world.

Right, because Russia has never lost a war. Okay

Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan

[OldHarbor]

Not a great meme.Will Smith has had sex with his own son, a sick Globohomo, no wonder the Zeepers chose him.

[silverleaf]

Hmmm

Eastern Ukraine
A main language is Russian
The statues are of Russian heros ( except for some of WW2 Nazis and sympathisers, like Bandera)
The cities and streets are Russian named ( or have been tweaked to seem Ukrainian)
The territory was a Soviet Republic until 1991
The Russians built the infrastructure
The Russians paid off all the Uke debt when the USSR broke up
The popular vote in Uke elections has always been pro-Russian candidates
The people got fed up when Minsk was revealed to be a false agreement by Kiev and the West and over 14,000 were killed by Ukraine after 2014 in a “ civil war”
The people voted by referendum to join the RF, a right guaranteed by the UN
The Russians amended their constitution to incorporate 4 eastern oblasts into the RF

The farmers and miners left Ukraine, they took the land with them

They are home.

[silverleaf]

Yeah, Zelensky tried that in January 2022

And then the fun began

[Kahuna]

Trump will make both Russia and Ukraine a deal that they can’t refuse. The deal will be consummated before Trump sets foot in the White House again.

[FrankRizzo890]

“There ain’t no money in peace”

[Navy Patriot]

...who has behaved more like Nazis in Ukraine...

Biden, the Deep Swamp, the US and State governments and judges in the Four Prosecutions of President Trump and the J6 Prosecutions, American Prog Marxist Democrats, and you.

You asked.

[Chad C. Mulligan]

OR, Americans could refuse to prostitute America to Nazis like Ukraine.

Some nutcase in Ukraine found 900 Nazi wannabees out of a population of 41 million, and now the whole country is Nazis. Riiight! You are soooo gullible to fall for this Muskovite lie.

After WW2 "de-Nazify" in Russian meant imprison/kill/deport plain-ordinary socialists from Poland/Romania/Bulgaria/Czechoslovakia, et. al. In Ukraine it will mean anybody who speaks Ukrainian in public or attends the Ukrainian Church.

[Navy Patriot]

Will Smith has had sex with his own son, a sick Globohomo, no wonder the Zeepers chose him.

Will Smith?

I thought that was Tlozo!

[Mmogamer]

The azov brigade

[Mariner]

Irreconcilable differences.

Only war solves those.

[rdcbn1]

Russia left Afghanistan a lot better than we did under Biden

And that's the sad reality. If Biden stays in power, we lose in Ukraine. If Trump wins, there is a negotiated settlement under much better terms for Ukraine than Biden could ever get But Russia is going to get a permanent presence in Ukraine and complete control of Crimea no matter what.

Either way close to a million dead Ukrainians and the Ukraine destroyed for an entire generation at best to end a conflict that could have ended with much better terms for Ukraine two weeks into the conflict if Biden and NATO had not queered the deal.

And worse, Ukraine could most likely have kicked Russia out of Ukraine if we had given them the necessary arms and support to actually win instead of wage a destructive forever proxy war against Russia.

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