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California Is Finally Awash in Water, but Its Farmers Can’t Get It. A push to save endangered fish has cut supplies to America’s produce epicenter, stirring resentment
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 15, 2024 | Jim Carlton

Posted on 06/15/2024 10:50:24 AM PDT by karpov

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To: brownsfan

Rural California is red, I’ve heard. But outnumbered by big city leftards, who might get red-pilled by price hikes on their crazy BS food fads. But unlikely. The crime, the filth, the illegals, etc., haven’t red pilled them. So why should more expensive avocado toast.


21 posted on 06/15/2024 11:27:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: hanamizu

Silicon Valley used to be “The Valley of Heart’s Delight.” Fruit was planted starting in the 1880s and covered the valley with fruit trees in a few years. The soil is incredible here (if you don’t have clay by the bay). A house a few doors down was rebuilt 15 years ago and they dug a basement. They had topsoil down 15 feet and then hit a cobblestone ancient riverbed!


22 posted on 06/15/2024 11:31:06 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: kennedy

I stand corrected. 😁


23 posted on 06/15/2024 11:31:14 AM PDT by LIConFem (DOJ's new motto: Fair is foul, and foul is fair.)
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To: brownsfan

I supplied Financial software to growers, packers, shippers, farmers et cetera for three decades. All the growers I knew were very conservative businessmen.


24 posted on 06/15/2024 11:35:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: karpov

My plan. Use the 40% water to raise crops to feed your family, workers and fellow farmers. Next sell the extra food at a loss to an out of state co-op you and other farmers set up. California gets no tax revenue since in California you lost money. In the other state the co-op made money. Let the state and population in California starve because after all we are saving the fish!


25 posted on 06/15/2024 11:43:30 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: karpov

How did the smelt ever survive a dry spell before people started “managing” the water?


26 posted on 06/15/2024 11:54:19 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

THEY DIDN’T

A physical count taken a couple of years ago:

MULTIPLE BOATS IN THE DELTA ALL DURING THE SAME WEEK-—TAKING “COUNTS”=====

AFTER ALL OF THAT THEY FOUND 7 ——SEVEN-—Delta Smelt.


27 posted on 06/15/2024 12:00:45 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: karpov
The pumps that transport water from wet Northern California to the semiarid south have been drastically slowed to protect threatened migrating smelt, measuring up to 3 inches, and steelhead.

This is all about the California real estate racket (particularly benefitting Catellus Development, Kaufmann and Broad, etc.) so that they can build insta-cities along our supposedly "high speed rail" system, to be completed at outrageous cost "someday." The smelt is likely imported from Kamchatka but for a single "find" by a rather malleable ichtheo-archaeologist and is being snarfed by striped bass, also exotic but very popular among fishermen. As to the steelies, they're being hammered by Russian, Japanese, and Korean commercial fishing. You can read about a related case here.

28 posted on 06/15/2024 12:05:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: brownsfan

Indeed lemmings always follow the same path.


29 posted on 06/15/2024 12:10:07 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: brownsfan

Folks in the relevant areas largely aren’t represented by democrats in the legislature or Congress, but their numbers are swamped by the rat hordes in the Bay Area and Southern California cities. Remember, in 2020 6,000,000 in this state voted for Trump


30 posted on 06/15/2024 12:13:01 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: ridesthemiles
- AFTER ALL OF THAT THEY FOUND 7 ——SEVEN-—Delta Smelt. -

How many of the boats counted the same smelt more than once???

31 posted on 06/15/2024 12:15:59 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: karpov

Bad in the bad old days of the 1970’s there was a big drought in Santa Cruz so bad we took baths in the ocean. The government started taking our well water and billing us for what once was free.

I remember driving south to Orange county and there was no drought down in the desert scrub land. People were still washing cars, watering lawns, name it.

Until California, who basically owns or stole the water does this, there will be bad droughts and poor water management. Who profits?


32 posted on 06/15/2024 12:17:19 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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Thank you for referencing that article karpov.

"California Is Finally Awash in Water, but Its Farmers Can’t Get It. A push to save endangered fish has cut supplies to America’s produce epicenter, stirring resentment"


First, the states have never expressly constitutionally given the unconstitutionally big federal government the specific power to define or police endangered biological species.

"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.

But it remains that career California lawmakers are probably happy that non-popularly elected federal bureaucrats running constitutionally undefined federal regulatory agencies are doing their unpopular dirty work for them.

Also, the following videos about delta smelt make some interesting points, the first video clip showing Trump express his concerns about California water politics v. smelt.

Donald Trump: Delta Smelt Crisis: The Hidden Truth Behind California's Water Shortage (non-FR)

The second video notes that the smelt hasn't been seen in the delta for the last six years, the third video mentioning that predators and food competitors are helping to reduce the number of smelts.


33 posted on 06/15/2024 12:20:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: karpov

Supreme Court probably needs to reign in the Endangered Species Act. So many species that are protected (fish, hawks, eagles, wolves, rattlesnakes) are not even actually endangered so they made up a new category “at risk”, and many are a threat to people, livestock and pets. Should not be protected at all. Actually, I think no species should be protected— if they failed to make it without help there is a good reason for it, we should respect it and move on. Wolves being a great example.


34 posted on 06/15/2024 12:29:01 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: brownsfan

It’s the cities that control Kali. Just like in every other state.


35 posted on 06/15/2024 12:46:36 PM PDT by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: karpov
A real patriot would kill all the remaining special fish. At that point the argument is mute. Nothing to protect.

36 posted on 06/15/2024 1:05:55 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: ridesthemiles

I was not talking about a couple of years ago, more like a couple thousand years ago, or even earlier. There must have been prolonged droughts at times, yet the fish did not go extinct.


37 posted on 06/15/2024 1:07:46 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
mute moot

38 posted on 06/15/2024 1:07:52 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: karpov

There was enough of water even before, but the fish (now maybe a dozen left) were getting their huge share before, due to court order. But they could blame it on drought and climate change.

Now they can’t!

BTW, the fish will not go extinct, it is well treated in some aquarium. And, despite all the water it gets, it is going extinct in the wild anyway.
There is something we do not know, why the fish is getting extinct, probably because some species just go extinct. Not because lack of water though!


39 posted on 06/15/2024 1:09:31 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: karpov

Idiots in Cal don’t care if people starve and farms go bankrupt. And BTW, they’re lying as always... it ain’t about no damn fish. It’s all about pushing their control agenda.


40 posted on 06/15/2024 1:09:39 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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