Posted on 05/24/2024 8:59:28 AM PDT by marshmallow
“The last two years fought with our money and backing, will have no appreciable difference in outcome than a negotiated settlement years ago”
Then why didn’t Putin try to negotiate for Crimea and Donbas in 2014 instead of running his hamhanded and cowardly “Little Green Men” invasion?
That was the time for negotiations if there were to be any.
Instead Putin started a war and now war is coming home to Russia every day. Refineries are burning, factories are burning, and Putin insists on bashing his country to death on a virtual rock.
Whatever you want to say about Zelensky what is demonstrably true here is that he stands in the way of Putin’s dreams of empire.
I don’t think Russia is strong enough to project farther. As it is, he’s running out of men. In any event, we cannot go across the ocean to fight them without a proper declaration of war.
Russia is the “Italy” of the Modern Day Axis.
“Then why didn’t Putin try to negotiate for Crimea and Donbas in 2014 “
Those talks involved ukraine shelling civilians in donbass and crimea at that time.
“I don’t think Russia is strong enough to project farther.”
I agree. Russia is at this point a land power and their logistical reach is troubled. They’re having a hard time supplying their forces in Ukraine and that’s on their border.
“In any event, we cannot go across the ocean to fight them without a proper declaration of war.”
If Russia attacks into Estonia and Tallinn invokes Article V of the North Atlantic Treaty then no declaration of war is necessary. The NATO treaty and Article V were already ratified by the US Senate. They do not need to approve it a second time.
You’re mixing up your dates here. The shelling and fighting came AFTER Russia’s cowardly invasion of Crimea and Donbas.
Not really.
Ukraine was trying to ethnically cleanse ethnic Russians from donbass and crimea even back then.
Back when our media was being honest about Azov.
LOL. I bet you just LOVE Latvia!
Letting the world know we’re NOT going to jump right up to assist a corrupt country defend their equally corrupt ‘elites’ might be a favor to humanity. Time to move past toxic incentives that exist primarily to make us ‘feel good’ about ourselves at the expense of others.
Actually I don’t care and would prefer us to not be involved at all.
Latvia expelled all of their ethnic Russians who were Russian citizens and who would not learn to speak Latvian.
They correctly saw these people as a potential excuse for Putin to attack and invade Latvia so they were sent back to the country of their citizenship.
The USA should follow suit and likewise deport Russian citizens who refuse to assimilate.
“Agreed. Let’s start with the Putin apologists spreading the Kremlin’s lies on FR. 😂”
Wow...you dislike the Russians more than I do! LOL!
Yeah, and we didn’t get involved.
Yet we’re elbows deep in Ukraine.
But that’s because we didn’t have a corrupt laundromat going in Latvia, did we.
Latvia is a member of NATO and that’s why Russia couldn’t do or say much when Latvia expelled Russian citizens right back to Russia.
Latvia also tore down and destroyed Russian war memorials, I recall they relocated a Russian cemetery, and they tore down and destroyed a few Russian-era buildings that were reminders of Russian oppression. Lithuania and Estonia did similar things.
AH, so yes, NATO did indeed encroach eastward.
And while NATO claims that wholesale removal of populations in that fashion is evil, just what did they do about it?
“AH, so yes, NATO did indeed encroach eastward.”
Exactly which NATO army ‘encroached’?
Telling Russian citizens with valid Russian passports to haul their worthless carcasses back to Russia is the right of every country in the world.
“Latvia is a member of NATO “
So you’re the arbiter of who is worthless and where someone can live when they’ve lived somewhere their whole lives?
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