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A wargame simulated a 2nd Trump presidency. It concluded NATO would collapse.
Business Insider ^ | May 12, 2024 | Michael Peck

Posted on 05/13/2024 7:16:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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1 posted on 05/13/2024 7:16:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Gee I thought the euro superstate would not even need nato anymore, it would be obsolete.


2 posted on 05/13/2024 7:18:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Is Europe really so pathetic that they can’t defend themselves from Russia?

I mean Russia looks ok fighting against Ukraine, but they don’t strike me as some sort of imperialistic powerhouse.


3 posted on 05/13/2024 7:19:22 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Bye Nato we won’t miss you.


4 posted on 05/13/2024 7:20:50 PM PDT by toddausauras (Trump 2024)
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I have no problem with us paying to protect all of Europe. The only condition is that the must surrender their sovereignty and governance to us.


5 posted on 05/13/2024 7:22:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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6 posted on 05/13/2024 7:22:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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As a presidential candidate, Trump has threatened to quit NATO unless European allies contribute more …
He never said that, Peck. Stop lying.
7 posted on 05/13/2024 7:22:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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So what!

NATO has been a paper tiger for a long time. The United States of America should not be paying to defend other countries.

If other countries want our defense, then they should pay the total cost of our troops and equipment and support being there.


8 posted on 05/13/2024 7:23:10 PM PDT by StrictConstructionist
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Let me guess, Finley Grimble probably also co-authored the Steele dossier.

Newsflash, NATO is probably going to collapse one way or another. Many have suggested this before Finley Grimble. So trying create another Trump boogieman is really only to reinforce the coastal elites TDS. Europe will be Muslim within a decade anyway.


9 posted on 05/13/2024 7:23:44 PM PDT by Obadiah
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“Europe” is in no danger from Russia. That’s just posturing for the benefit of the US left.


10 posted on 05/13/2024 7:25:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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And, THAT is why NATO is obsolete. It should be replaced with a EURO-centric mutual defense organization that is not dependent on US military material support.


11 posted on 05/13/2024 7:25:30 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have an idea! Why don’t all the NATO members pay the cost to protect themselves?


12 posted on 05/13/2024 7:25:31 PM PDT by abbastanza (he)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s called negotiating.


13 posted on 05/13/2024 7:26:52 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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I betcha there's a scenario where NATO loses if a conflict started today under the present regime.

But, if European NATO is that concerned they know what they need to do to have a chance at winning.

Boost their defense spending.

Change their immigration policies.

Boost European born citizens.

14 posted on 05/13/2024 7:27:50 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: abbastanza

They are supposed to be a bigger economic powerhouse than we are, after all.


15 posted on 05/13/2024 7:28:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PubliusMM

That’s exactly what the EU has wanted for decades, for the purpose of anti-American aggression. Want to hand it to them, like Biden handed that big smorgasbord to the Taliban in Afghanistan?


16 posted on 05/13/2024 7:28:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sounds like a happy ending to me.


17 posted on 05/13/2024 7:29:05 PM PDT by ganeemead (everything )
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To: DesertRhino
I have no problem with us paying to protect all of Europe. The only condition is that the must surrender their sovereignty and governance to us.

And I demand free Dom Pérignon, Bitberger Pils, and Camembert, for life.

18 posted on 05/13/2024 7:31:02 PM PDT by montag813
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To: MinorityRepublican
Finley Grimble

Sounds like a friggin Dickens character.

19 posted on 05/13/2024 7:32:07 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Olog-hai
"“Europe” is in no danger from Russia. "

Correct. Putin is a totally rational guy, and there is no rational reason for him to want to rule all of those idiot wankers.

20 posted on 05/13/2024 7:32:39 PM PDT by ganeemead (everything )
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