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Teacher Pay: Half-truths and Reality; Are Public School Teachers Really Underpaid?
American Greatness ^ | 03/14/2024 | Larry Sand

Posted on 03/14/2024 6:41:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: FoxInSocks

I was helping in college.
It was science class with no math! (How can that be!)
When we came to some simple addition, one young lady complained, that there shall be no math!
I said - this is just simple calculation, no math!
The I asked her -
I had five apples. I gave you two. How many apples I have now?

She thought for a while and then said - “I do not know!”

That is the product of today’s high schools!


41 posted on 03/14/2024 9:27:00 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: iamgalt
I am a retired high school teacher. Before that I spent 9 years in the USAF then 12 years working, as an engineer, for a major aerospace company. All of my classroom time (physics, electronics and pre-engineering classes) was preparing my students with that in perspective.

Most of the teachers I worked with have never left the school environment their entire lives. Unfortunately, IMO, they had a Peter Pan complex and that is why they became teachers. School time was the best times of their lives and they wanted to continue that by teaching. They never had to deal with the real world and education is their never-never land.

42 posted on 03/14/2024 9:42:08 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: CodeToad

Sort of like doctors, lawyers, politicians, policemen, construction workers...you get the idea.


43 posted on 03/14/2024 9:42:32 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SeekAndFind

btt


44 posted on 03/14/2024 9:51:06 AM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION.)
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To: 1Old Pro

I’m a retired Illinois high school teacher. I worked at the district that I retired from for twenty five years and in all those years I never had a paid holiday, vacation day or any other type of “day off”.
I had a contract to work each year for a specific number of days. If it snowed a bunch, we might not work that day but that day was made up during the scheduled spring break or working an additional day at the end of the year.
Summers are “off” because parents demand that they be. This may be changing a bit now, but that was the original motivation.
This is pretty much the way I’ve heard that is all over.
In short pal, you, via your school district, agree to every last dime/benefit that teachers in your district receive.
If you are unhappy about this, go run for your school board and do something about it.


45 posted on 03/14/2024 9:56:57 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SeekAndFind

Overall, with various perks included, a teacher makes an average of $68.85 per hour, whereas a private sector worker makes about $40 per hour.

depends on the state/school district...


46 posted on 03/14/2024 10:46:52 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: hardspunned

You’re an arrogant ass. You denigrate the people who teach our kids to read and therefore open up the universe for them. The people who teach our kids how to calculate, so they can function as citizens in our society. Teachers who had to drive through terrible weather conditions to get to school because school was not called off that day. Teachers who were physically assaulted and/or threatened with physical harm every day. Who had to report abusive parents and save their children from physical assault and worse. And who had to protect and comfort the kids through terrorist threats. This doesn’t cover having to motivate the students from the time they walk (often late) into your classroom to the end of the period or keep classroom discipline (even when the libtard administration forbids disciplining students, particularly those of “color”).

I don’t know what kind of teachers you know or what they taught or what kind of schools they taught in. Was it urban NYC? Or Podunk, Smalltown?

I refused to lower my standards and give away undeserved passing grades, or engage in disseminating libtard propaganda. For this, I and other conservative teachers were harassed, received letters in our files, and were threatened with being brought up on charges. It was the kind of thing Trump is going through now, frivolous made up nonsense, so I can fully sympathize with him. Teachers were removed from their positions and stuck into the “rubber rooms”, just like the J-6 prisoners. NYC jettisoned hundreds of years of classroom experience because the teachers would not change grades or teach the watered down crap they were asked to substitute for real information.

BTW, I had quite the adequate passing rate for my students, because they knew I would not give away grades.

So quit your boo hoo hooing with me about sweating or freezing. There are different types of jobs asking people to put up with different kinds of difficulties. My teaching years were no picnic. But I loved it.


47 posted on 03/14/2024 1:28:59 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: pfflier

That was my experience too. For over 30 years I worked with teachers and most were exactly as you said and it got worse every year.


48 posted on 03/18/2024 7:32:53 AM PDT by iamgalt
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To: SeekAndFind

Judge them by their work product. The answer will be self-evident.


49 posted on 03/18/2024 7:34:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: SeekAndFind

No.
In the worst schools they need well payed trained armed guards (plural)..and there would be much less nonsense happening in schools.


50 posted on 03/18/2024 7:37:28 AM PDT by Leep (Kill ALL Fakestinians!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Judge them by their work product. The answer will be self-evident.

Stagnant test scores, total failure in inner city schools... in private practice they would be fired.

51 posted on 03/18/2024 7:38:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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