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1 posted on 12/14/2023 10:23:23 AM PST by george76
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I got an idea.
Banish white men from consideration.
That should do it.


88 posted on 12/14/2023 12:39:41 PM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Investigators said a JetBlue plane's tail struck the runway at a Colorado airport when a captain took-off quickly to avoid a head-on crash, as airport near-misses surge due to air traffic controller shortages.

I don't know what to make of this reporter's intent.

The airport where this occurred was a small regional airport with no control tower that was near a ski resort. It was one of those airports where the pilots talk directly to each other on a common frequency.

ATC shortages had nothing to do with this incident and had no place being mentioned in the story, let alone in that sentence.

Source: AP via Daily Mail - NTSB says a JetBlue captain took off quickly to avoid an incoming plane in Colorado last year:

The NTSB said "nonstandard" radio communication by the crew of the King Air contributed to the Jan. 22, 2022, incident at Yampa Valley Regional Airport, about 25 miles (40 kilometers) west of the ski town of Steamboat Springs, Colorado.

The NTSB´s final report comes as investigators look into several other recent close calls between planes.

It also highlights conflicts that can arise when big airline jets and private planes mix at smaller airports where there are no air traffic controllers. Airline pilots are often less familiar with those airports because flights may be only seasonal.

-PJ
89 posted on 12/14/2023 12:45:37 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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take off and landings are into the wind... so how is a plane landing with the wind to be head on to the one taking off... somethin aint right here...


92 posted on 12/14/2023 12:58:31 PM PST by sit-rep
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And why is there a controller shortage .... mandatory fake vaccines.


94 posted on 12/14/2023 1:20:35 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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We're Closer To A Major Airline Disaster Than You Think - Matt Walsh
96 posted on 12/14/2023 2:09:16 PM PST by mykroar ("It's Not the Nature of the Evidence; It's the Seriousness of the Charge." - El Rushbo)
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The old saying goes, "A miss is as good as a mile!".

But, a near miss is about the closest thing you can get to a sudden death experience and not be "dead".

100 posted on 12/14/2023 6:06:58 PM PST by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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Isn’t it odd that the landing and takeoff were in opposite directions (i.e. head on)?


105 posted on 12/15/2023 5:00:17 AM PST by cymbeline
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Great thread. Freepers know everything about weapons and aviation.


107 posted on 12/15/2023 2:59:49 PM PST by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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Even worse than mid-air collisions would be giving up our diversity /s


109 posted on 12/16/2023 12:26:42 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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Those AA hires...


110 posted on 12/16/2023 12:30:07 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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If the Jet Blue was taking off correctly on runway 28, then the beechcraft was landing downwind which is a shakey procedure. Or the Jet Blue was trying to take off down wind. I’ve seen them do it at other airports to save time.

John Cox, a former airline pilot and current safety consultant, said he wondered why JetBlue pilots started moving without knowing how far the Beechcraft was from them and why the second plane didn’t move when they knew the JetBlue flight was taking off.

The Beechcraft pilots “didn’t do anything egregiously wrong up to the point that they knew they had an A320 coming face-to-face with them and they didn’t abort the landing and get out of its way,” Cox told the AP.

My problem is that it is the responsibility of the departing aircraft to visually clear the airspace prior to rolling and the JB pilots knew the Beechcraft was out there and on approach. Of course Mr. Cox, as a current safety consultant for the airlines, would wonder why the beechcraft didn’t abort his landing, but the main responsibility for not having a collision falls to the departing aircraft. And head on means someone was not taking off or landing upwind. But Cox’s statement about the Beechcraft not doing anything wrong except clearing the airspace for the JB aircraft tells me the JB was taking off the wrong direction in an uncontrolled airport. Nearest radar is in Denver, about 25 miles. There are 5 major carriers come in there with 3 minors schduled almost daily. Their alternative for weather is Denver.

wy69


111 posted on 12/16/2023 1:05:41 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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If the Jet Blue was taking off correctly on runway 28, then the beechcraft was landing downwind which is a shakey procedure. Or the Jet Blue was trying to take off down wind. I’ve seen them do it at other airports to save time.

John Cox, a former airline pilot and current safety consultant, said he wondered why JetBlue pilots started moving without knowing how far the Beechcraft was from them and why the second plane didn’t move when they knew the JetBlue flight was taking off.

The Beechcraft pilots “didn’t do anything egregiously wrong up to the point that they knew they had an A320 coming face-to-face with them and they didn’t abort the landing and get out of its way,” Cox told the AP.

My problem is that it is the responsibility of the departing aircraft to visually clear the airspace prior to rolling and the JB pilots knew the Beechcraft was out there and on approach. Of course Mr. Cox, as a current safety consultant for the airlines, would wonder why the beechcraft didn’t abort his landing, but the main responsibility for not having a collision falls to the departing aircraft. And head on means someone was not taking off or landing upwind. But Cox’s statement about the Beechcraft not doing anything wrong except clearing the airspace for the JB aircraft tells me the JB was taking off the wrong direction in an uncontrolled airport. Nearest radar is in Denver, about 25 miles. There are 5 major carriers come in there with 3 minors schduled almost daily. Their alternative for weather is Denver.

wy69


112 posted on 12/16/2023 1:05:41 PM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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“A JetBlue Airbus A320 struck its tail on the runaway as it accelerated to avoid a collision with a Beechcraft King Air 350..”

I bet that wasn’t the only thing/person making skid marks right about then.


119 posted on 12/16/2023 1:58:05 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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