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Ukraine will spiral into WWIII if we don’t stop Russia here: Zelensky
NY Post ^ | 11/21/2023 | Social Links forJerome Starkey, Defense Editor, The Sun

Posted on 11/21/2023 6:12:36 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: silverleaf

“Crimea has since continued to vote for referendums of autonomy and voted heavily almost exclusively for pro-Russian political reps in every election since.”

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Voting under threat is not voting. Its tyranny.

Also, if Cuba decides to annex Florida one day, in order to “protect Cuban-Floridian citizens rights” (for example)... do you really think Washington should accept that? Or should we send in the Marines to liberate Florida from the Cuban claws?
Crimea belongs to Ukraine. Period.
If we don’t accept that. Then Texas must be returned to Mexico, etc.. etc.. etc...

We must stop the Islamo-Neosoviets (Russia-Iran-Hamas Alliance) overtaking the world against America’s interests. The only way to stop the Russian for-ever wars is to stop their multiple invasions right in their tracks.
If we let it spread, we’ll be sorry.


41 posted on 11/21/2023 9:06:20 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: dforest; DownInFlames

“You must get your info from propaganda CIA central. LOL”

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And you are getting your narrative from the FSB? :)


42 posted on 11/21/2023 9:09:29 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: silverleaf
Crimea has since continued to vote for referendums of autonomy and voted heavily almost exclusively for pro-Russian

LOL, "voted".


43 posted on 11/21/2023 9:10:39 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: All

tlozo wrote;

Destroying our enemies military without one US injury or death is a worthwhile goal. US spent 5% of its military budget to destroy half of Russia’s capability with the help of Ukraine.

BabaOreally wrote;

Destroying our enemies military without one US injury or death is a worthwhile goal. US spent 5% of its military budget to destroy half of Russia’s capability with the help of Ukraine.’

Two chit birds singing the same song.

Gleaned from the papers at the bottom of the cage.

Imagine that.


44 posted on 11/21/2023 9:35:16 AM PST by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

+1 000 000


45 posted on 11/21/2023 9:45:11 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; MeganC

Well said !


46 posted on 11/21/2023 9:48:22 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: USA-FRANCE

No, but I will point out people telling lies and you are one I would point to.


47 posted on 11/21/2023 9:50:54 AM PST by dforest
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To: USA-FRANCE
There’s your voting pattern in the last two Ukrainian National elections. Kinda shows what happens when political maps don’t reflect national groups, esp when the part in the western half is determined to suppress, reeducate or erase the other parts in order to racially “ purify” a new identity disassociated from history? You really wonder why Zelensky does not want to hold elections, even with all “ pro-Russian” political parties now banned?


48 posted on 11/21/2023 9:52:28 AM PST by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: silverleaf

Your map is debunked.
You don’t take into consideration that the voter fraud in Eastern Ukraine was organized by pro-russians. Lets talk about the 2004 elections for example...

Fraud or Fairytales: Russia and Ukraine’s Electoral Experiences

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Ordeshook argued that data from the second round of Ukraine’s presidential elections in October 2004, which were widely criticized by international observers, demonstrate similar irregularities to those observed in Russia’s 2004 election. The irregularities overwhelmingly favored “party of power” candidate Viktor Yanukovych. Ukrainian electoral districts, like Russian districts, were characterized by a division between those with normal voter turnout and those with high turnout. According to Ordeshook, in regions of Southern and Eastern Ukraine, Yanukovych benefited from the “excess” turnout, while Yushchenko benefited to a lesser extent in Western regions. While there were irregularities on both sides, they were on a very different scale. Ordeshook argued that Yushchenko received a maximum of 670,000 suspect votes, while Yanukovych received up to 3.8 million. He noted further that an inordinately large percentage of votes cast during the last few hours of the election went to Yanukovych, when, it appears, his supporters “panicked because they realized they were going to loose unless they did something about it.”

Complete story :
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/fraud-or-fairytales-russia-and-ukraines-electoral-experiences


49 posted on 11/21/2023 11:17:06 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

I guess you should contact wiki to “debunk” the results of the 2010 election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election

And the remarkably similar 2004 election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Ukrainian_presidential_election

But no worries, Kiev has almost certainly finally won the hearts and minds of eastern Ukraine and Crimea…eh


50 posted on 11/21/2023 12:27:47 PM PST by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: silverleaf; All

There is nothing complicated about understanding the Ukraine situation. Everything is Crystal clear.
There in one aggressor (Russia) and one defender (Ukraine).

According to my right-wing Law and Order attitude, I always condemn the rapist, and not the victim of the rape. Russia and the Islamic State of Iran is an alliance which has decided to gang rape Ukraine and destabilize Israel as part of the process. Together they represent the pinnacle of organized crime.
Judgement day will come for them.


51 posted on 11/21/2023 12:53:15 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: ChicagoConservative27; Allegra; cabojoe; crz; dforest; JonPreston; kiryandil; MarMema; OKSooner; ...

Just point and laugh at the warmongering pervert Dick Tator. He doesn’t like that. Neither do his garbage troll disciples on FR.


52 posted on 11/21/2023 9:40:58 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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53 posted on 11/21/2023 9:47:36 PM PST by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers - Free Extremely Extreme Extremist! )
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To: Allegra

That's the midget creep who drives around town in this van. Hide your kids !

54 posted on 11/21/2023 10:11:37 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Post 26 - well said.


55 posted on 11/21/2023 11:01:10 PM PST by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers - Free Extremely Extreme Extremist! )
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To: mund1011
Ukraine will spiral into WWIII if we don’t stop Zelensky

"I like it. Simple, easy to remember."

56 posted on 11/21/2023 11:02:01 PM PST by cabojoe ( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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