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2,000 Sociologists Discredit Their Profession
American Thinker ^ | 11/15/2023 | John Green

Posted on 11/15/2023 7:28:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Honest Nigerian

Correctification
I should have said “to vote for the ENABLER and defender of the “rapist from Hope, Arkansas””


21 posted on 11/15/2023 7:58:14 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: SeekAndFind

sociology
noun
so·​ci·​ol·​o·​gy ˌsō-sē-ˈä-lə-jē ˌsō-shē-
1
: the science of society, social institutions, and social relationships
specifically : the systematic study of the development, structure, interaction, and collective behavior of organized groups of human beings
2
: the scientific analysis of a social institution as a functioning whole and as it relates to the rest of society


notice the words systematic, functioning whole


22 posted on 11/15/2023 8:02:12 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In this context, “profession” needs to be in quotes.


23 posted on 11/15/2023 8:10:38 AM PST by marron
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To: hinckley buzzard

Same folks who “created” wokeness in all of its glory.


24 posted on 11/15/2023 8:40:21 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I remember being forced to take Sociology in college 40+ years ago. To this day I remember that the first 2 chapters in the textbook were about convincing us that Sociology was a real and legitimate science. Oddly, none of my other classes needed to do that.


25 posted on 11/15/2023 8:44:34 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s the other 95% of Socialists that give the rest a bad name.


26 posted on 11/15/2023 9:57:11 AM PST by 70times7
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

I understand SeekAndFind’s point.

I don’t understand yours. Please explain.


27 posted on 11/15/2023 9:59:35 AM PST by 70times7
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If you took on a student loan for a Sociology degree what you are today is....

broke.


28 posted on 11/15/2023 9:59:48 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My dipstick roommate went sociology. He’s a physical therapist now. He also canceled me from facebook for telling him his posts were generally mean spirited and dumb. (I was experimenting with facebook during pandemic and no longer use it)


29 posted on 11/15/2023 10:08:26 AM PST by Extra-Ordinary Objectives (My preferred pronouns are intuitively obvious to the most casual observer.)
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To: 70times7
I understand SeekAndFind's point.

I don’t understand yours. Please explain.

I'm not sure that I do understand his point - is it that there are many Jewish sociologists who are taking the Palestinian side? (Side question: Where is it written that any of this group is actually Jewish?)

Regardless, there are plenty of Jewish people whose only Jewishness is cultural, people who don't worship the God of the Jews.

My point is that tarring all Jews with the same brush is as unwarranted today as it was 2,000+ years ago.

30 posted on 11/15/2023 10:36:44 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: BobL
"Actually, it was the UN that ‘declared statehood’ for Israel - it wasn’t self-declared."

UN Resolution 181 had no teeth to create either a Jewish or Palestinian state. The Israelis declared independence and fought for it, just like we did.

Israeli Declaration of Independence

"The Israeli Declaration of Independence, formally the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, was proclaimed on 14 May 1948 by David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization, Chairman of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and soon to be first Prime Minister of Israel. It declared the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel, which would come into effect on termination of the British Mandate at midnight that day. The event is celebrated annually in Israel as Independence Day, a national holiday on 5 Iyar of every year according to the Hebrew calendar."

31 posted on 11/15/2023 11:19:12 AM PST by 10mm
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To: 10mm; BobL
The Israelis declared independence and fought for it, just like we did.

Who did Israel declare independence from? The United Nations or Great Britain?

The American colonies of Great Britain declared independence from Great Britain and fought a war against Great Britain.

32 posted on 11/15/2023 11:33:01 AM PST by woodpusher
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"Who did Israel declare independence from?"

An astute question. At the expiration of the British Mandate, the Arab armies (Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Eqypt) moved in to strangle the nascent Jewish state in its crib. The best answer I can give you that is independence was declared from the Arabs who would have taken over rule of the former British Mandate.

33 posted on 11/15/2023 11:49:27 AM PST by 10mm
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To: Extra-Ordinary Objectives

When I was in college, I always thought that the sociology crowd looked like the people you see in Woody Allen movies.


34 posted on 11/15/2023 2:58:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ('Build Back Better' is a Bidenskyyyyyyism for 'we gotta get rid of all dem white peoples'.)
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To: 10mm; woodpusher; BobL
In all fairness, the Arabs AND the Jews revolted against British rule in Palestine prior to 1948 (Arabs attacking the British because of the Balfour Declaration and the nature of the Mandate; Arabs attacking Jews; Jews attacking Arabs; Jews attacking the British; etcetera).
35 posted on 11/15/2023 4:09:23 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: 10mm; Ultra Sonic 007
The best answer I can give you that is independence was declared from the Arabs who would have taken over rule of the former British Mandate.

The argument fails as a comparison to the birth of the United States. Israel began with a well trained and equipped army which was given to them. Within four hours of their declaration of independence, the United States formally recognized them. They were an internationally recognized nation state before the inevitable invasion by their neighbors. There was certainly a war, not to obtain independence, but to maintain independence, a war of survival for a very new state.

On December 11, 1947 it was announced that the British Mandate would end on May 15, 1948. Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948. Whether Israel had declared independence or not, the Mandate was disappearing the next day, leaving the territory independent.

The land itself ceased to be Hebrew land nearly three millenia ago. It was muslim controlled land until the League of Nations proclaimed the Mandate for Palestine in 1922, and appointed the British to act as administrator for the Mandate.

How the League of Nations gained the authority to own the mandate or declare a purpose to create a Jewish state in the middle of what had been muslim controled land for millenia, who knows? The same may be said for the United Nations creating the Jewish state, with Britain acting as its administrator. Much the same was done to Africa by the European colonial powers, drawing borders to suit the colonizing powers. The Mandate hokum just sprinkled legal pixie dust on the matter.

In the struggle to overthrow the Turkish Ottoman Empire, the British enlisted the aid of the Arabs to hold an Arab uprising against the Turks, and promised a large independent Arab nation. Having fought against the Turks, imagine the Arab surprise to learn their efforts were repaid with a declaration to create a Jewish state on then-muslim land.

And so, this effort at nation building created not only a Jewish state, but an irreconcilable conflict that persists to this day. Regarding the land, both sides have reasonable arguments in a territorial dispute created by outsiders.

36 posted on 11/15/2023 11:10:09 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
Concluding that the purpose of the post was to "tar all Jews with the same brush" may, or may not, be accurate. You have already made it clear that you don't know, so why do that?

I think it is more fruitful to consider the what was placed on display with these few words in post 11:

Judas was a Jew

So was Jesus.

In Jeremiah God has said: The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? And there is no one who has ever walked on this earth in the flesh who has overcome this wickedness except the Lord Himself, Jesus Christ. He became flesh and gave Himself, a Worthy Sacrifice, to rescue us from ourselves. This is the essence of the contrast between Jesus and Judas. Regardless of whether one considers an individual to be completely evil or simply misguided, there is hope and forgiveness at the cross of Christ.

God selected the Jews to be a people apart. Along with the human lineage of our Savior, one of His other purposes was to wright parables in history predominantly with the Jews and the nation of Israel. Scripture is straight forward on this issue: God loves Israel, and if you love God you love what He loves.

ps, did you intend to imply distance with the phrase; "God of the Jews"?

37 posted on 11/16/2023 5:58:54 AM PST by 70times7
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