2,000 Sociologists Discredit Their Profession

American Thinker ^ | 11/15/2023 | John Green

[Honest Nigerian]

Correctification
I should have said “to vote for the ENABLER and defender of the “rapist from Hope, Arkansas””

[PeterPrinciple]

sociology
noun
so·​ci·​ol·​o·​gy ˌsō-sē-ˈä-lə-jē ˌsō-shē-
1
: the science of society, social institutions, and social relationships
specifically : the systematic study of the development, structure, interaction, and collective behavior of organized groups of human beings
2
: the scientific analysis of a social institution as a functioning whole and as it relates to the rest of society

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notice the words systematic, functioning whole

[marron]

In this context, “profession” needs to be in quotes.

[bobbo666]

Same folks who “created” wokeness in all of its glory.

[Dutch Boy]

I remember being forced to take Sociology in college 40+ years ago. To this day I remember that the first 2 chapters in the textbook were about convincing us that Sociology was a real and legitimate science. Oddly, none of my other classes needed to do that.

[70times7]

It’s the other 95% of Socialists that give the rest a bad name.

[70times7]

I understand SeekAndFind’s point.

I don’t understand yours. Please explain.

[cgbg]

If you took on a student loan for a Sociology degree what you are today is....

broke.

[Extra-Ordinary Objectives]

My dipstick roommate went sociology. He’s a physical therapist now. He also canceled me from facebook for telling him his posts were generally mean spirited and dumb. (I was experimenting with facebook during pandemic and no longer use it)

[Quality_Not_Quantity]

I understand SeekAndFind's point.

I don’t understand yours. Please explain.

I'm not sure that I do understand his point - is it that there are many Jewish sociologists who are taking the Palestinian side? (Side question: Where is it written that any of this group is actually Jewish?)

Regardless, there are plenty of Jewish people whose only Jewishness is cultural, people who don't worship the God of the Jews.

My point is that tarring all Jews with the same brush is as unwarranted today as it was 2,000+ years ago.

[10mm]

"Actually, it was the UN that ‘declared statehood’ for Israel - it wasn’t self-declared."

UN Resolution 181 had no teeth to create either a Jewish or Palestinian state. The Israelis declared independence and fought for it, just like we did.

Israeli Declaration of Independence

"The Israeli Declaration of Independence, formally the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, was proclaimed on 14 May 1948 by David Ben-Gurion, the Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization, Chairman of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, and soon to be first Prime Minister of Israel. It declared the establishment of a Jewish state in Eretz-Israel, to be known as the State of Israel, which would come into effect on termination of the British Mandate at midnight that day. The event is celebrated annually in Israel as Independence Day, a national holiday on 5 Iyar of every year according to the Hebrew calendar."

[woodpusher]

The Israelis declared independence and fought for it, just like we did.

Who did Israel declare independence from? The United Nations or Great Britain?

The American colonies of Great Britain declared independence from Great Britain and fought a war against Great Britain.

[10mm]

"Who did Israel declare independence from?"

An astute question. At the expiration of the British Mandate, the Arab armies (Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Eqypt) moved in to strangle the nascent Jewish state in its crib. The best answer I can give you that is independence was declared from the Arabs who would have taken over rule of the former British Mandate.

[FlingWingFlyer]

When I was in college, I always thought that the sociology crowd looked like the people you see in Woody Allen movies.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

In all fairness, the Arabs AND the Jews revolted against British rule in Palestine prior to 1948 (Arabs attacking the British because of the Balfour Declaration and the nature of the Mandate; Arabs attacking Jews; Jews attacking Arabs; Jews attacking the British; etcetera).

[woodpusher]

The best answer I can give you that is independence was declared from the Arabs who would have taken over rule of the former British Mandate.

The argument fails as a comparison to the birth of the United States. Israel began with a well trained and equipped army which was given to them. Within four hours of their declaration of independence, the United States formally recognized them. They were an internationally recognized nation state before the inevitable invasion by their neighbors. There was certainly a war, not to obtain independence, but to maintain independence, a war of survival for a very new state.

On December 11, 1947 it was announced that the British Mandate would end on May 15, 1948. Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948. Whether Israel had declared independence or not, the Mandate was disappearing the next day, leaving the territory independent.

The land itself ceased to be Hebrew land nearly three millenia ago. It was muslim controlled land until the League of Nations proclaimed the Mandate for Palestine in 1922, and appointed the British to act as administrator for the Mandate.

How the League of Nations gained the authority to own the mandate or declare a purpose to create a Jewish state in the middle of what had been muslim controled land for millenia, who knows? The same may be said for the United Nations creating the Jewish state, with Britain acting as its administrator. Much the same was done to Africa by the European colonial powers, drawing borders to suit the colonizing powers. The Mandate hokum just sprinkled legal pixie dust on the matter.

In the struggle to overthrow the Turkish Ottoman Empire, the British enlisted the aid of the Arabs to hold an Arab uprising against the Turks, and promised a large independent Arab nation. Having fought against the Turks, imagine the Arab surprise to learn their efforts were repaid with a declaration to create a Jewish state on then-muslim land.

And so, this effort at nation building created not only a Jewish state, but an irreconcilable conflict that persists to this day. Regarding the land, both sides have reasonable arguments in a territorial dispute created by outsiders.

[70times7]

Concluding that the purpose of the post was to "tar all Jews with the same brush" may, or may not, be accurate. You have already made it clear that you don't know, so why do that?

I think it is more fruitful to consider the what was placed on display with these few words in post 11:

Judas was a Jew

So was Jesus.

In Jeremiah God has said: The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? And there is no one who has ever walked on this earth in the flesh who has overcome this wickedness except the Lord Himself, Jesus Christ. He became flesh and gave Himself, a Worthy Sacrifice, to rescue us from ourselves. This is the essence of the contrast between Jesus and Judas. Regardless of whether one considers an individual to be completely evil or simply misguided, there is hope and forgiveness at the cross of Christ.

God selected the Jews to be a people apart. Along with the human lineage of our Savior, one of His other purposes was to wright parables in history predominantly with the Jews and the nation of Israel. Scripture is straight forward on this issue: God loves Israel, and if you love God you love what He loves.

ps, did you intend to imply distance with the phrase; "God of the Jews"?