Posted on 07/17/2023 9:17:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The problem with responses like yours is you offer no alternatives to the current system other than to complain about it.
I’ve made an attempt to offer multiple alternatives, you have offered nothing but complaints.
That is absolutely illegal, and *REPUBLICANS* will go to prison if they copy the Democrats.
But you strike me as someone who does not understand *HOW* the Democrat "ballot harvesting" operation works. If you did, you would not suggest such an idea without telling us how to break the law and get away with it.
I could keep going but to keep challenging the outcome of elections is a proven losing strategy
Thanks in a large part to people like you who simply listen to the media liars rather than look at the actual evidence of fraud that is available.
Ballot harvesting is perfectly legal in some states, in fact only 1 state says only the actual voter can return the ballot. Your assertion that is absolutely illegal is absolutely wrong.
Meaning some form of ballot harvesting is legal in 49 states. 11 states don’t mention who can actually return the ballot.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_laws_by_state
I would suggest it’s you that has ZERO how ballot harvesting works or where it’s legal and who can actually ballot harvest.
Well played!
Read up on 4GW.
No organization,just random acts.
Thx
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I've read every comment in this thread, and I saw nothing where you addressed corrupt officials in Arizona. You are ignoring the main problem and offering solutions that do not acknowledge what we are actually facing.
Since the Arizona Court System has rejected every one of her legal challenges, what is your strategy or do you even have one other than to complain about it.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant for corruption.
Yes, we keep *TALKING* about it. We keep repeating over and over and over again that Arizona is corrupt, and it needs to be investigated and the corruption rooted out.
We bring the light of day to the problem and we demand the corruption be eliminated.
What we *DO NOT DO* is ignore it and pretend it didn't happen.
I absolutely did mention how to change the strategy, you just don’t agree with it and offer ZERO alternatives, other than to complain about it.
It’s not my problem you don’t understand alternatives.
If you are going to solve a problem, you must first understand the nature of the problem.
No rational man can look at what they have done to Kari Lake and conclude it was anything but serious corruption in the election system.
Your "solutions" do not deal forthrightly with this issue, but instead attempt to pretend it isn't the primary problem with winning an election in Arizona.
Do I have a clear, simple solution? No, but that doesn't make the problem go away. The problem may be intractable, and at this point if it cannot be solved by exposing the corruption, it may be the only possible way to solve it is with force.
I think the more reasonable approach at this time is to constantly talk about it and demand something be done about. Do not concede the point that the election was orchestrated through fraud, and keep the social pressure up until we can say for certain that we cannot solve this peaceably.
You’re wrong, the way to change the system is to get different people in charge and you have to win elections to do that.
Republicans are losing too many winnable elections and something needs to be done.
All you is criticize my ideas and offer none of your own solutions
It should be legal in *NO* states because it violates the chain of custody of ballots. It is an obvious method of inserting fake ballots into the system.
Your assertion that is absolutely illegal is absolutely wrong.
Stop. Just stop. You clearly do not understand what I mean when I say the Democrat methodology of "ballot harvesting" is absolutely illegal. You assume I am talking about just gathering up valid ballots and turning them into "drop boxes."
That is absolutely not what I am talking about. That is *NOT* what Democrats do.
It is a tedious process to relate to you all the various methods the Democrats use for corrupting this process, and one would have hoped you already knew what they were before you engaged in this discussion, but you clearly do not know how they do it.
Firstly, they register fake voters often with fake addresses such as parking lots, commercial buildings and sometimes just completely made up addresses. They register illegal voters, incompetent voters such as senile nursing home residents, they register dogs, cats and made up imaginary people.
They then fill out the ballots for all these fake imaginary "voters", and dump them into the drop boxes where they are counted as actual voters. We've seen this trick used in many elections, including in Arizona.
They get away with it because Democrat DAs won't prosecute or even investigate this sort of vote fraud.
But if a Republican did this, they would immediately be arrested and go to prison.
Hopefully my brief explanation as to their various methods of vote fraud will have better informed you as to what we are dealing with.
No amount of "ballot harvesting" is going to beat this corruption tactic, unless you go over the legal line the way they do.
I didn’t misread anything you were wrong about ballot harvesting
Absolutely it should be illegal but it’s not and the Republicans should do everything legally possible to take advantage of the laws is negligent and gives the Democrats a major advantage
Of corrupt election officials in Arizona? Where did you mention that?
you just don’t agree with it and offer ZERO alternatives, other than to complain about it.
I generally avoid offering advice that clearly won't address a problem I am trying to solve. A placebo won't help us here. We need actual solutions, not wishful thinking.
It’s not my problem you don’t understand alternatives.
I understand that what you are suggesting is not an "alternative", it is a pacifier. We need an actual alternative to tolerating election corruption.
Do you have a grasp of cause and effect?
If the elections are corrupt and rigged, how are you going to win them?
Republicans are losing too many winnable elections and something needs to be done.
Like Arizona? Are you daft? That thing has been shown to be corrupt so many different ways you have to be either working for the other side, or some sort of idiot to believe it was legit.
All you is criticize my ideas and offer none of your own solutions
The only plausible solution I see to the problem is provoking the wrath of the people and getting them to scare the corrupt election officials straight.
Every corrupt bastard in Arizona would tremor in fear if the wrath of the public was aroused against them, but it is people like you who keep trying to calm the public by pretending all is well instead of making them understand everything is corrupt and evil, and the public needs to do something about it.
You are not helping. You are unwittingly assisting the enemy. (I assume it is unwitting.)
Scaring them is your solution ??
Losing an election and getting booted out of office usually is enough to scare elected officials
Just how exactly would you scare the officials and what exactly would they be scared of ??
I offer tangible advice and you offer is to scare people and I’m the one who doesn’t understand the problem
We are dealing with people that are corrupt to the core: exercise mind control, lie, steal, kill babies, cut up perfectly healthy bodies, and basically embrace any and all things anti-Jesus Christ. Yet they spout off in terms that proclaim they are virtuous.
And how do they accomplish all of those things?
They have no fear of punishment.
They need to have fear of punishment.
That’s obviously but won’t God punish them when they die.
Again, do you have difficulty grasping the difference between "cause and effect"?
If you can't win elections because elections are rigged, then you will never boot them out of office.
Am I speaking Klingon here? Do you not understand as long as these people are willing to cheat in elections, you will *NEVER* get them out?
You have to make them stop cheating or resign, and I don't see much hope for making them resign.
Just how exactly would you scare the officials and what exactly would they be scared of ??
The Wrath of the people. Show up in force at public meetings and denounce them as corrupt! Make them understand that the public will not tolerate more election "shenanigans".
This is what people have been doing in school board meetings with some degree of success. We need protests of their offices and we need to confront them in the streets.
Do you not have the slightest idea how to be an activist?
I offer tangible advice...
Oh it's "tangible", in that we can actually see it and actually do it, but it doesn't actually fix anything, so it would be more like the stuff Rinos have been doing in Washington which is intended just to appease people while not actually solving anything.
and I’m the one who doesn’t understand the problem.
And yes, you've made it quite clear that you don't understand the problem.
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