Posted on 06/26/2023 6:22:04 AM PDT by aquila48
Feral animals.
I worked in a Silicon Valley startup company about 15 years ago. Silicon Valley pretty much had no dress code by then — anything and everything went. Even with that, most people looked somewhat sharp in casual clothes. Our VP of Manufacturing was a really nice Brit and he ALWAYS wore a tie to work. I think he commanded more respect for it. He was self-confident and he seemed to never feel out of place or conspicuous with the tie on.
I visited beautiful Anglican churches in Bermuda and the Bahamas in shorts, and maybe a baseball cap, no problem. They do like to see Andrew Jackson’s portrait in the donation jar, though. In London, I visited the crown jewels in jacket and tie, and the attendant, somewhat curtly I thought, told me to button my jacket. A friend had the same experience visiting Lenin’s tomb, before the break up of the Soviet Union, the attendant asking him to button up his jacket. I worked with a guy from Hong Kong (Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering from an English university) who was fluent in Cantonese, his first language, and who visited the Great Wall. When he tried to buy post cards the vendor gave him cards in Japanese.
I think that’s just rationalization. There is no correlation between engineering skill and dress, other then perhaps a negative one with regard to discomfort and forced compliance vs. creativity and productivity. When my former Fortune 100 employer went to business casual, all the employee satisfaction survey numbers spiked off the top of the scale.
I’ve seen plenty of shorts that extend well below the knees. I had a few pair and thought they were quite uncomfortable. An extension of fashion coming and going. Thankfully, most newer offerings are knee length or just above or just below.
I applaud being well dressed but personally because of a family trait of fat necks and double chins I find it almost impossible to find a dress shirt that fits my otherwise fairly normal body but with 18” neck. So wearing a tie is very nearly torture. Thank god for those little springy collar fake-button neck extenders.
I miss the days when you dressed up to go out to dinner. Now, you can probably wear a tank top and have sandals at even the fanciest restaurant.
I also wear a suit and tie to funerals and weddings. No exceptions.
And I have worn long sleeve shirts, ties, pressed trousers and shined shoes for the last 34 years to work.
My wife has been trying to get me to change, but I am not going to budge on these things. I sympathize with her, but I am not going to change. For weddings and funerals it is a show of respect. I don’t care if I am not “with the times”. I am not wearing an open collar shirt to a funeral.
As you said: If you are a professional at something, you dress as a professional, especially if you work with customers or patients. I dress for work. It puts me into “work mode”.
“And then there is the other end - Moslem countries.”
My prediction is the two extremes will converge toward the middle as they interact more and more.
The Muslims will pull the decadent, vulgar west toward more modesty, and the west will pull the repressive islamists toward more tolerance and moderation.
197? I went to a dinner show at Harrahs Reno to see Roy Clark and had to rent a tie to get in.
Back in 1984, it was the same in Israel.I did not have a problem with that.
I’d like to see Jesus visit the Vatican these days. For a number of reasons they probably wouldn’t let him in.
I've seen adults dressing like that for Sunday morning service.
It's beyond disgusting.....
I'm surprised there are still places considered to be sacred.
When I go to a regular Sunday Mass, I'm still perplexed by what some consider decent dress for a sacred event.
It's probably because I'm old and remember the Latin Mass where women covered their heads and men wore suits {or the best clothes that they had}.
That sign states “No Food or Drink”!
What, no coffee bar inside the building?
Two of my cousins were flight attendants in the late ‘80’s; they both said that when sightseeing in Italy, they’d get sore from Italian men pinching their butts.
or just pull their finger nails out...
I was in Rome during August, believe me you don’t want to be walking in long pants. ITS HOT.
Dress like you are from the 50’s and you should be OK.
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