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How many lines of demilitarization, denazification , make a sanitary zone
Dances with Bears ^ | 20 June 23 | John Helmet

Posted on 06/21/2023 7:53:34 PM PDT by delta7

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To: Reverend Wright

You are correct! Here we are!


61 posted on 06/22/2023 3:26:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Timber Rattler; delta7
You're just figuring out that delta7 worked in Russia?

You're not the sharpest bot in the drawer.

62 posted on 06/22/2023 3:49:25 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Reverend Wright

Note: Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia

What proportion of these do you think are going to be from the millions of Ukrainians already in-country? Who are in very many cases already in the Polish workforce? Think about that. Let us watch what happens. PiS (the ruling party) isn’t about to piss off its base. They are happy with the Ukrainians.


63 posted on 06/22/2023 4:01:41 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Timber Rattler
Hitler and Stalin would have loved you.

Your analysis of the substance of my post shows your typical analytical brilliance.

You seem confused. Hitler and Stalin were mortal enemies. Stalin's Russia did more to win WW2 than any other nation. Stalin's Russia inflicted more battlfield casualties upon Germany than any other nation. The Russians marched into Berlin, victorious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany

For their part, the Ukrainians collaborated with the Nazis, and the ladies appeared to be quite welcoming.

I reckon Joseph Goebbels would have loved you as it appears you may be a direct descendant.

For your remedial education there are the speeches of JFK and of RFK Jr. with commentary by Robert Barnes and Viva Frei (David Freiheit).

https://rumble.com/v2vqdgk-rfk-jr.-the-speech-of-a-generation-viva-and-barnes-analysis.html

Streamed on: Jun 22, 1:31 pm EDT
RFK Jr. - The Speech of a Generation? Viva & Barnes Analysis

64 posted on 06/22/2023 4:15:00 PM PDT by woodpusher
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Hitler and Stalin were mortal enemies.

Oh yeah?

The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

Stalin's Russia did more to win WW2 than any other nation.

Oh yeah?

How Lend-Lease helped the Red Army win in World War II

U.S. Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union, 1941-1945


65 posted on 06/22/2023 4:31:23 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: delta7
My training of Ivan’s was 20 years after my 82nd days.

Well you didn't do a very good job of training Ivan considering how poorly he fights.

So how much did Putin pay you to train Ivan?

66 posted on 06/22/2023 4:33:08 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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So how much did Putin pay you to train Ivan?
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Ironically, I was paid very, very well by a private American company. You have absolutely no idea what goes on, I do….my advice, ditch the war cheerleaders wagon and hop on the Peace, negotiation wagon….even if it means destruction of the western narrative the less informed have bought into.


67 posted on 06/22/2023 4:49:32 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
Right...but who paid your company, or perhaps more accurately, where did the funds for payment originate?

Regardless, unconditionally surrendering to hostile foreign governments (which is what you're really demanding of Ukrainians) and living on our knees is NOT an American ideal, nor is it Conservative.

What would Reagan say about that? Would he force the surrender of the country or any of our friends and/or allies to the Russians?

68 posted on 06/22/2023 4:54:09 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: delta7

More gaslighting from the usual suspects. Those were signed PROPOSALS, it was NOT a final agreement, but you knew that. As for reading Putin’s mind, there’s no need for that as he has publicly stated his goals for reestablishing full sovereignty over the territory of ‘historical Russia’. The commentary in the article you posted are fully in accord with this imperialistic agenda.


69 posted on 06/22/2023 5:00:37 PM PDT by Salohcin
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To: Timber Rattler

What would Reagan say about that? Would he force the surrender of the country or any of our friends and/or allies to the Russians?
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Great point. What exactly WOULD Regan say about supporting the most corrupted President and administration in US history? …and to the most corrupted foreign country in the world? ……and shipping billions of dollars to a foreign country with zero accountability? …and openly shipping billions of taxpayers money in support of war, not Peace? or funding pet Nazi’s? …and all the time never gaining approval by vote from our citizens? ….the list is huge.

Everything about Ukraine stinks.


70 posted on 06/22/2023 6:05:46 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Timber Rattler

Well you didn’t do a very good job of training Ivan considering how poorly he fights.
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Good or bad, Do realize Vlad has added four new Oblasts to the Russian Federation, five counting Crimea, codified into Russian law.

When do the war cheerleaders realize he isn’t giving them up, and the entire collective West can do absolutely nothing about it. In fact, at this time, on this trajectory it is very possible ( not likely) Ukraine ceases to exist.


71 posted on 06/22/2023 6:14:12 PM PDT by delta7
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...and to the most corrupted foreign country in the world?...

Not true.

Russia is well ahead of Ukraine. See here for the rankings:

2022 CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX

In terms of low corruption, out of 180 countries, Denmark ranks first, the U.S. is at 24, Ukraine at 116 (and improving), and Russia at 137 (and declining). Somalia comes in last at 180.

BTW, here's how Reagan wanted to deal with the Russians:

Reagan: we outlaw Russia forever and begin bombing in five minutes.

72 posted on 06/22/2023 8:11:53 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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Good or bad, Do realize Vlad has added four new Oblasts to the Russian Federation, five counting Crimea, codified into Russian law.

Russian "law" doesn't amount to a hill of beans when it comes to Putin's armed conquests.

As for your training Ivan, I think Putin should ask for a refund.

73 posted on 06/22/2023 8:13:21 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact

"The pact was signed in Moscow on 23 August 1939"

"The pact was terminated on 22 June 1941, when Germany launched Operation Barbarossa and invaded the Soviet Union, in pursuit of the ideological goal of Lebensraum."

That was a short love affair, and ended before Pearl Harbor. But if that is all you've got, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.

Stalin's Russia did more to win WW2 than any other nation.

Oh yeah?

How Lend-Lease helped the Red Army win in World War II

I see your point. Ukraine is not doing much in the conflict with Russia. The U.S. is doing the heavy lifting. Any medal of honor should be awarded to some factory worker in the U.S. Thanks for your keen insight about who fights wars.

You still sound like Goebbels.

74 posted on 06/22/2023 8:42:34 PM PDT by woodpusher
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That was a short love affair, and ended before Pearl Harbor. But if that is all you've got, throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.

Two years as a member of the Axis Powers is NOT "short-lived." And Stalin only joined the Allies out of necessity when Hitler stabbed him in the back with Barbarossa.

75 posted on 06/22/2023 8:52:33 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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Two years as a member of the Axis Powers is NOT "short-lived." And Stalin only joined the Allies out of necessity when Hitler stabbed him in the back with Barbarossa.

That's just what lovers do. It took two years for the divorce, not for the love to have left the relationship.

27 million dead Russians later, the love had really, really gone out of the relationship, never moreso than when Russia marched into Berlin.

You still have not addressed anything in the post (#27) you originally responded to. Your last brain dead nonsense claimed lend-lease was more responsible for winning WW2 than Russian soldiers. You seem to have ignored the implication that American supplies have once again done more to fight a war than Ukrainian soldiers.

Try harder. This is like watering a plant. Show some sign of intelligence.

Your improv of Josef Goebbels is not all that entertaining.

If you are unable to think of any distraction but Hitler and Stalin, may I suggest Obama's Connecticut SSN. It is equally irrelevant, but more contemporaneous, and seems to be making the rounds again.

76 posted on 06/23/2023 7:30:47 AM PDT by woodpusher
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The Soviet Union was not a party to the Anti-Comintern Pact (an anti-communist pact originally signed by Germany and Japan), the “Pact of Steel” (a military alliance between Germany and Italy), or the Tripartite Pact (a 1940 pact that formally aligned the military and economic aims of Japan, Germany, and Italy), which are historically considered the foundation of the Axis Powers. The name originates from a 1936 German-Italian protocol wherein Mussolini coined the phrase “Rome-Berlin axis”.

Also, if you don’t consider two years to be short-lived, then the “German–Polish declaration of non-aggression”, which lasted from 1934 to 1939, must feel like an eternity.

Ironically, the USSR had been in active negotiations with Britain AND France in 1939 to create a tripartite alliance that would serve as a counter to the Germans, while simultaneously trying to obtain a non-aggression pact with Germany (the overall goal, as you can probably tell, was to get some measure of non-aggression from the Nazis for at least a little while, because war between the Soviets and the Nazis was inevitable). Had the British and French negotiators been a bit more savvy or determined, Molotov-Ribbentrop might have never come to be.


77 posted on 06/23/2023 7:47:30 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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