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Did Trump Just Convict Himself on Fox News?
PJ Media ^ | 06/20/2023 | Stephen Green

Posted on 06/20/2023 10:02:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Mariner
Insult somebody else, asshole.


161 posted on 06/20/2023 4:34:18 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: John S Mosby

That has absolutely no bearing on Counts 32-37 of the Indictment. Apparently, you are either willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant.


162 posted on 06/20/2023 4:52:39 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Timber Rattler

No doubt about it, that 12 year old girl snark makes you look cool.


163 posted on 06/20/2023 5:23:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

Folks, the Presidential Records Act is not a criminal statute. It’s expected that a President may need to sort out what’s personal and what’s government property. Nobody has ever been prosecuted under the PRA because there are no criminal penalties for violating it.

What Trump is being accused of breaking is the Espionage Act. The Dems say that Trump had classified materials that he wasn’t entitled to possess. None of that has been proven, and it’s not clear what was declassified. Trump says he declassified all of the documents. The government says otherwise. It will get sorted out in court.


164 posted on 06/20/2023 5:24:56 PM PDT by Tom in Seattle
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To: Tom in Seattle

Actually, none of the charges rely on the classification of the documents. He is being charged with possessing national defense information and refusing to return it when asked. Those charges do not require that the documents be classified, only that they contain national defense information. So even if Trump declassified every document in his possession, it wouldn’t impact the charges included in the indictment.


165 posted on 06/20/2023 5:39:22 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last!)
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To: odawg

You were the one that asked if I knew what all the books in a lawyer’s office was and I responded since Hillary had never been charged with a crime none of her cases would be in any books in a lawyer’s offices


166 posted on 06/20/2023 10:18:35 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: SeekAndFind

It doesn’t matter what we think. Nor does it matter what Trump said. What matters is how the MSM will play this all out in front of the independent undecided types, and those who vote but don’t follow any of this in detail.


167 posted on 06/21/2023 6:05:49 AM PDT by Nifty
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To: Nifty

RE: What matters is how the MSM will play this all out in front of the independent undecided types, and those who vote but don’t follow any of this in detail.

Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz recommends strongly that the Trump Classified Document trial be TELEVISED so that the American people don’t see the trial through the filter of the Mainstream Media. After all, this involves a NATIONAL ISSUE that affects the decisions of every American voter ( the leading Republican Presidential candidate ).


168 posted on 06/21/2023 7:12:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: thegagline

32 to 37 is piling on the same “violation”. Apparently you know nothing of the Indictment in particular the absolute IDIOCY of trying to apply the 1917 Espionage Act (from Woodrow Wilson against his opposition to dragging the US into WWI late in the game for his own Global genius purposes. The act, like so many others has not been applied since to anyone, and specifically cannot be applied to a President or former President and has not been as a result.

Far more informed than your wishful thinking twitter level understanding of actual LAW. You can look up the section of repeat violation within the 1917 Act— and immediately see this is an incredible prosecutorial misconduct to get a gran jury to indict utilizing it. Desperate, and quite stupid. So they move the venue... weaseling again. Shopping judge will not withstand appeal to SCOTUS or even 11th under control and review of Clarence Thomas.


169 posted on 06/21/2023 1:25:57 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: thegagline

Here ya go- the Federalist. Learn. Then explain to all here whom you work for.

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/16/six-reasons-dojs-legal-case-against-trump-is-seriously-flawed/


170 posted on 06/21/2023 1:54:01 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
32 to 37 is piling on the same “violation”.

You couldn’t be more wrong. Your arrogance does not make up for your obvious lack of understanding of the law. The elements of the offenses embodied in Counts 32 - 37 differ markedly from 18 USC § 793(e) If however you are an attorney, I suggest you increase your malpractice liability coverage.

171 posted on 06/21/2023 2:50:55 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: CA Conservative

Whether something is national defense information or not is very subjective. Given the corruption in the federal government, I have zero faith in the arbiters of what constitutes NDI vs not.


172 posted on 06/24/2023 5:18:04 PM PDT by Tom in Seattle
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