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Ukraine retakes part of village near Bakhmut, head of Russia's Wagner says
Reuters ^ | June 5, 2023 | Mark Trevelyan and Felix Light

Posted on 06/05/2023 6:57:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: dangus

I haven’t seen a single person “cheering on Putin” but I sure see a lot of Chickenhawks cheering on the equally corrupt Zelensky and Ukraine. Have people forgotten about the Donbass massacres after Zelensky was inserted into power by Obama/Biden? It could be argued that the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine are being occupied by Zelensky.

This binary BS of Zesnksy Saint/Putin evil is so simplistic. They both suck and have both committed atrocities. Why is that our business in the USA?


21 posted on 06/05/2023 8:04:15 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: JonPreston

“How does it feel to have cheered on this war, only to have innocent Ukies crushed and humiliated?”

Wishing innocent Ukrainians crushed and humiliated doesn’t make it so.


22 posted on 06/05/2023 9:07:11 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Timber Rattler
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/ukraine-launches-its-counterattack.html#more

The long announced Ukrainian counter offensive has started. New Ukrainian units, never seen before, have come to the front.

The attack was launched by Ukraine for political reasons under pressure from its 'western' sponsors. Militarily it is unlikely to become successful but it will eat away at whatever is left of Ukraine's military capabilities.

Attacks happened all around the front. In the north towards Belgograd, to the east and, with the most forces, towards the south. There was so far little to no success in any of the attacks.

The daily report by the Russian Ministry of Defense list as Ukrainian losses over the last 24 hours 910 soldiers, 16 tanks, 33 armored combat vehicles/infantry fighting vehicle and some 30 trucks

So far only the most forward positions of Russian troops have been attacked. There are two to three well organized defense lines behind those. The Russians can fall back whenever needed and let the artillery and air force destroy their oncoming enemies.

23 posted on 06/05/2023 1:27:01 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Timber Rattler

fear not timber, there is always another war beyond the war.


24 posted on 06/05/2023 5:49:35 PM PDT by norsky ( <P> <a href= > </a> <P><img src=" "width=600"></img>)
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To: Timber Rattler

Wagner Mercenaries were the only Russians who have done a successful offensive in the past couple of months. If Putin is smart, he would give more control to Yevgeny Prigozhin, and privatize the war in Ukraine. The Russian military is corrupt so they’re worthless. Yevgeny Prigozhin is competent but Putin would be threatened of a coup so he wouldn’t do the logical thing here.


25 posted on 06/05/2023 5:53:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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