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Jury finds Trump DID sexually abuse E. Jean Carroll in Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s: Ex-President is cleared of rape but ordered to pay her $5m damages
Daily Mail UK ^ | May 9, 2023 | Kayla Brantley

Posted on 05/09/2023 12:18:04 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: gloryblaze

Yes, because he has good counsel who know what has to be done.


281 posted on 05/09/2023 4:37:47 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: Coronal

“He was found liable of sexual battery, not rape, and defamation. Total awarded damages of 5 million.”

Yes, but....she accused him of rape....not of sexual battery. If he didn’t commit the rape, then how the hell do they manage to convict him of anything else. Logic would follow.... that if he’s not guilty of the rape, then the incident never happened... because she lied. It’s not rocket science (except to some).

I say that with full realization that it’s New York and that logic has gone bye-bye in cities like NY or in any cities run and ruined by the radical left.


282 posted on 05/09/2023 4:39:22 PM PDT by Danie_2023 (I haven't given up....I'm just regrouping.)
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To: gloryblaze

In trust for a grandchild, and placed there long before the suit ever was thought of, is more than enough to keep Carrol’s grubby paws off of the money. Even if Donald is the trustee, it’s there for the sake of the minor beneficiary, one of his grandkids or a nephew or niece.


283 posted on 05/09/2023 4:41:10 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: noiseman

“Who knows in this case, but it seems to me that what the New York legislature did by just arbitrarily opening up a new one-year window for all kinds of screwed-up women to make unsubstantiated, decades-old allegations against men they hate should be unconstitutional.”

The term “ex post facto” comes to mind.


284 posted on 05/09/2023 4:42:41 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ

Just for starters.


285 posted on 05/09/2023 4:44:13 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. )
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To: Eleutheria5

Huh? Ok. For all the reasons stated, he will not win the appeal. I never said he wasn’t going to appeal


286 posted on 05/09/2023 4:45:06 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: CrazyCatChick

That is the definition of clear and convincing evidence, but the burden of proof in civil litigation is the preponderance of the evidence


287 posted on 05/09/2023 4:45:54 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: Fury

Same as me saying, “haha, I have a gun, I can’t wait to hijack this plane, harhar!” waiting in the airport TSA line.


288 posted on 05/09/2023 4:48:55 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: Danie_2023

Rape is the act of forcing someone into a sexual act against their will. Battery is the act of engaging in unwanted physical contact with another person resulting in some sort of harm. Not the same thing. The jury basically said that he groped and grabbed her but didn’t rape her.


289 posted on 05/09/2023 4:51:20 PM PDT by Coronal
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To: DouglasKC

Monica’s blue dress.


290 posted on 05/09/2023 4:54:45 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: j.havenfarm

Are there different thresholds depending on the count? Again, apologies, from CNN:

“To prove her defamation claim, the jury had to find that Carroll’s legal team proved by the preponderance of the evidence that Trump knew it was false when he published the statement about Carroll last year and knowingly exposed her to public ridicule. They also had to determine that she proved by clear and convincing evidence that the statement was false, and that Trump made the statement with actual malice.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/carroll-trump-jury-deliberations/index.html

Does that make any sense, or is it slippery journo speech? This doesn’t make sense to me.


291 posted on 05/09/2023 4:58:08 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: Fury

Rape jokes are neverfunny.


292 posted on 05/09/2023 4:58:45 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: ScottfromNJ

It is my understanding that the change in law was mostly about adult survivors (male and female) of child sexual abuse from clergy.

At least that is what I remember from the discussions at the time.


293 posted on 05/09/2023 5:02:46 PM PDT by trustverify0128
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To: j.havenfarm

TY for sharing your expertise.


294 posted on 05/09/2023 5:05:13 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: gloryblaze

I’m not following you. Was this suit not originated long after the SOL, on the basis of the special “Adult Survivors Act?” And that had a one year deadline, by which time she filed. -—— It was. The Adult Survivors Act is unconstitutional to the extent that it extends the statuette of limitations to any individual subject to a law where the statuette of limitations for that law has already expired for that particular individual. Think the constitutional prohibition of ex post facto laws and constitutional prohibition on double jeopardy. The tolling of an statuette of limitations on particular offense is legally similar to being tried and found not guilty of that particular offense.


295 posted on 05/09/2023 5:06:04 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: dowcaet

Fortunately, this silly case will not do it.

He will run, and he will win.

If only the cheats don’t steal it again.


296 posted on 05/09/2023 5:08:08 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: Morgana

Where is Bill Clinton?


297 posted on 05/09/2023 5:09:20 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: FreedomForce

He is getting up in years, and Time is taking its toll.


298 posted on 05/09/2023 5:09:55 PM PDT by miserare ( "Equity" is the new word for Communism.)
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To: Coronal; goron
You are both damned dead wrong!

The judge told the jury that IF ( implying that Trump HAD done so ) "kissed her on the check, that that, and that ALONE could be taken for "sexual abuse"!

There was not a scintilla of evidence that he had ever done that ( nor anything else that has been claimed ), but the jury took THAT part and ran with it.

299 posted on 05/09/2023 5:13:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: wiseprince

She didn’t say he went all the way. She said he put a finger (or 2, I don’t remember) into her vagina.


300 posted on 05/09/2023 5:16:59 PM PDT by Reynoldo (BurnLootM)
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